umutbaris Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Hi, I'm 17 years old and singing for 2 years. I have Brett Manning's Singing Succes, Mastering Vibrato and Mastering Mix. I have found my head voice but it starts to hurt above G4 and I cant sing Bb4-C5 with head voice. I'm a baritone or bass-baritone I think and my range is about Eb2-Eb4(E4) My biggest problem is mix voice. I want to hit E4 F4 G4 easily and chesty. But when I try doing mix exercises I cant connect chest to head smoothly. It gets wheezy and sometimes turns into just air flow like I'm hitting blank notes then a few notes later it comes back again with head voice. I can't do edge exercises and vocal fry well. Because of the same problem it gets wheezy at break area and flip into head voice. How can I solve this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Hard work! And possibly a different training program. I have 2 of those programs and they did literally nothing for me. I got Pillars in February, and have increased my range from 2.5 to 3 octaves. I still have bridging issues, but I can also hear that I am getting better in the bridging area. My suggestion is to check out the pillars program, since it is designed to help you bridge better and evolve head voice. There are a ton of posts in here about bridging and head voice. Just search for them. In the end, the results you get are mirrored by your perseverence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umutbaris Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Thanks for suggestion, I will check it out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 What you are experiencing is totally natural. In that area of our range we have to start modifying the vowels - especially if you want to put some meat into the sound. If you don't your body will fight it and you can damage the folds. In CVT Neutral you can get away with not modifying or staying with more purely spoken vowels. But as soon as you try for a bigger sound like CVT Overdrive or Curbing you need to access different resonances. This is where vowel modification is required to sing in that range without damage. Some people modify naturally, but most people need to learn this. Of course you need good support too, but vowel mods are absolutely necessary. You can learn this with a singing program or directly with a teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Geno speaketh the truth. Generally, the passagio is in the D4 to G4 range for most singers, with it sounding less noticable in tenors than in baritones. Modifying a vowel is nothing to shy away from. Each person has a different "sweet spot" where a certain vowel sound sounds better than another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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