VideoHere Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 folks, sometimes i think the reason some singers sound so unbelievable is they really push the vocal envelope tettering in the danger zone of voice damage. sometimes i have found that if you really push out a "sound" putting safety (mentally) to the side you get the "sound" intuitively with no strain or pain. it's almost as if you have to power through a note to do it effortlessly. to get to the other side, so to speak, analygous to bodybuilding... it's not the note but the "sound" i'm reffering to. does that make any sense? what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted December 15, 2009 Administrator Share Posted December 15, 2009 Sure... sometimes is ok, if not preferred to break the rules... at least a LITTLE bit... typically, when your tracking in the studio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ideally, I think its about being able to have the choice, not being forced to muscle it otherwise you cant do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snax Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I agree with Matt on this one. I used to have to muscle my way into singing higher notes but have since learned it isn't necessary. Now I have the option of really torquing to get emotion when I need it but then being able to relax again right afterwards. Dynamics are what breaths life into a vocal IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ideally, I think its about being able to have the choice, not being forced to muscle it otherwise you cant do it. matt, can you explain a little more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well, I'm thinking of my dad who was an accomplished musician and the standards he and his associate set for themselves. With his roots in Charlie Parker, those guys felt that technique should never be a hinder because that would hinder you in expressing your art. So to them, technically you should be able to play any musical notation that gets set before you. Expressing your art only began once you cold handle your instrument fluently. By those standards, if you muscle through to a note, its only because you want to, not because its your only way of getting to that note. These are admittedly high standards for most of us mortals however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well, I'm thinking of my dad who was an accomplished musician and the standards he and his associate set for themselves. With his roots in Charlie Parker, those guys felt that technique should never be a hinder because that would hinder you in expressing your art. So to them, technically you should be able to play any musical notation that gets set before you. Expressing your art only began once you cold handle your instrument fluently. By those standards, if you muscle through to a note, its only because you want to, not because its your only way of getting to that note. These are admittedly high standards for most of us mortals however i see, thanks. i guess with me i like the sound of a well belted chesty-sounding note so i gravitate towards them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 When your on tv apparently taking the risk is worth it. Here's kim Hitting a High C in chestvoice! Seriously im not kidding! This is a must see, so dont miss out on the ending! http://www.bubblare.se/movie/kim_tolkar_la_voix_av_malena_ernman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshual Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Takin risk is not a singing technique thing, for me it's more a way of life, a behaviour. Some singers really don't think about technique but expressing themself. I don't think guys like James Morrisson care if they will still hit some high notes in 25 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snax Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 When your on tv apparently taking the risk is worth it. Here's kim Hitting a High C in chestvoice! Seriously im not kidding! This is a must see, so dont miss out on the ending! http://www.bubblare.se/movie/kim_tolkar_la_voix_av_malena_ernman OMG dude, that was horrible!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 hahahahaha!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Fraser Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 When your on tv apparently taking the risk is worth it. Here's kim Hitting a High C in chestvoice! Seriously im not kidding! This is a must see, so dont miss out on the ending! http://www.bubblare.se/movie/kim_tolkar_la_voix_av_malena_ernman Jens: What effect do you think he is using? To my ear, if anything it is strong head voice with an effect overlayed, kinda like Rod Stewart taken to the Nth degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Well i dont think he uses an effect, I think he pulls with all the muscles he's got and straining like hell and ofc that will trigger the falsefolds creating the noise. Basicly he's just blasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bounce Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 When your on tv apparently taking the risk is worth it. Here's kim Hitting a High C in chestvoice! Seriously im not kidding! This is a must see, so dont miss out on the ending! http://www.bubblare.se/movie/kim_tolkar_la_voix_av_malena_ernman Why is this guy singing like this? That can't be good for his health, and it doesn't sound very good.. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 well horrible is an understatement. But it sure is good fun, to hear someone realy go for it, completly miss it and still continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Here's a little known fact: In that church, 2 windows broke and 3 angels dropped down dead during the final note of that song. Seriously, though, missing a note and continue on is something that all of us singers have to be prepared for. If we are too afraid of that happening, we'll never get anywhere. That particular example was a bit over the top, however There's "cracking on a note" and then there is "CRACKING on a note". Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 When your on tv apparently taking the risk is worth it. Here's kim Hitting a High C in chestvoice! Seriously im not kidding! This is a must see, so dont miss out on the ending! http://www.bubblare.se/movie/kim_tolkar_la_voix_av_malena_ernman steve is right..that's a crazy head tone......gees!!! folks, you may be misunderstanding what i mean by taking risks. lol. one example... here's a singer with a clearly trained, beautiful voice singing a foreigner cover of "that was yesterday." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBUl_wCphK4 as nice as it is, (the guy can sing) i.m.o. he comes across rather mundane and sterile. now here's lou gramm of foreigner, singing it with passion and guts, notice the push at 1:45 on the high notes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOi5dRYZJww this is what i mean by taking risks..that's the "it factor" the mezmerizing vocal. he is working in more ways than one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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