Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 30, 2013 Administrator Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hey guys... At TVS we train students to bridge early and later. There are benefits to both and as a well rounded vocalist, you need to understand the benefits of both approaches and the risks as well. This information is explained in my training system, "The Four Pillars of Singing", but I don't want to get into the details at the moment... I just wanted to share this video with you of a vocalist from The Netherlands that used to sing for a band called "Lemur Voice"... I always loved this guy's singing and I think it is a good example of what we call 'light mass' singing in TVS and primarily, early bridging. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 That's a cool song and thanks for sharing, Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devaitis Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Very interesting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivke Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Woah, blast from the past. This guitarist is one that I used to watch alot of, never payed too much attention to the singer. Of course, that was before I started singing Cool clip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sounds a lot like LaBrie . Good stuff! Thanks for posting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 rob, can we really assume he is bridging early without asking him?.....i wonder. sometimes i think we have to actually ask the singer. your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMind Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I concur, what a voice! Gotta be head voice up there but it sure doesnt sound like it. He pulls out some wondrous vowels at times, all ringy but full bodied (sounds like a wine description, heh). What's up with the high mic position ? To catch a ringin mask I'm guessing ? I'm a guitar monkey so I'm guilty of a low mic most the time. Should I reconsider ? Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consumingfire39 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 rob, can we really assume he is bridging early without asking him?.....i wonder. sometimes i think we have to actually ask the singer. your thoughts? He is definitely bridging early. You can really hear that when he goes to his lowest notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 light mass, or any mass, one voice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 31, 2013 Author Administrator Share Posted January 31, 2013 Bob, its a valid question, but I think by the tone and the mass and just experienced ears, it sounds like less pull on the M1 musculature... this is more similar to how my voice responds I think, so I can kind of "feel" the sound in a way... they did two albums and they are both really great vocals on them... the guitarist went on to front a band called "Sun Caged" which also has a great singer... for you proggers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Robert and Videohere are both right lol! For a lighter voice, they can sometimes deceive you into thinking they are doing early-bridging but actually employing the heavier mechanism of their voice. Similarly a heavier voice can trick you into thinking they are bridging late when they are actually bridging early!!! One voice over everything though ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 What's up with the high mic position ? To catch a ringin mask I'm guessing ? I'm a guitar monkey so I'm guilty of a low mic most the time. Should I reconsider ? Hmmm. Yes, you should reconsider. One book I read on recording said that a mic for vocals should be placed at an angle, even with the bridge of the nose. And the singer should avoid looking up to the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Pashamov Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 What is all this thing with early bridging ? Where do you exactly implying that the singer bridges? Around..what? That is kind of interesting, cause when I sing high, I sound somewhat like him, maybe, I am talking above G4.. but I never considered it valid... and started learning the whole mixing stuff.. with chest in my high notes.. so when I do the head voice I add the chest UP... ? I've been doing wrong all this time? so is that what you refer as belting .. ? Holu mama mia.. what have I done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 2, 2013 Author Administrator Share Posted March 2, 2013 You can train the voice to bridge later or earlier... Both approaches are perfectly valid, they are just two different approaches. At TVS we train and have specialized onsets and techniques that train students BOTH, EARLY AND LATE BRIDGING TECHNIQUES... ... in spite of the fact that there is on other prominent teacher in the business that seems to keep telling people otherwise. This is wrong and is misleading students... Again, TVS has very specifically defined onsets, and techniques to handle both approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 What is all this thing with early bridging ? Where do you exactly implying that the singer bridges? Around..what? That is kind of interesting, cause when I sing high, I sound somewhat like him, maybe, I am talking above G4.. but I never considered it valid... and started learning the whole mixing stuff.. with chest in my high notes.. so when I do the head voice I add the chest UP... ? I've been doing wrong all this time? so is that what you refer as belting .. ? Holu mama mia.. what have I done.. Here's an example of someone bridging early, on a very challenging song. Not many have the chutzpah to try this song. And no, it's not me. https://thevocaliststudio.box.com/s/ebf8ef7460f93ccbeca8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Pashamov Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 So this bridging is considered to be before F4-G4 ? lol... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 like rob said...both ways (early or late) are valid when done correctly. both have their advantages and disadvantages all very much depending on the sound you are going for, etc. i happen to go for no bridge, because when i think "bridge" it makes me think i have to go over something, and even if i am technically going over something or in and out of something, or from something to something else... i don't want to think of it that way. one voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 i don't want to think of it that way. one voice. I have to agree with Bob. In spite of my having been supportive of 4 Pillars, I don't think of bridging, either. I think of one voice. Your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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