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Hey Yall I'm low voice sing bass- bartione I think I am, my range is F2-F4 its hard for me to reach F4 sometimes but what I wanna know is I don't feel my voice break till aroound Eb-F4 , currently its getting to where I can go up to F4 more comfortable, but if I try to hit F# I crack G4 out the question I can it in fasle but my false voice is bad!!!! Really horriable. My question is am I'm really a bass-bartione because I heard dere were 2 breaks in the voice, and dat is just my first and I'm stuck at F2-F4 and I'm wondering if I can get through that break or crack would my range be higher?, my horriable horriable false voice can go to E5 but it verrrryyy useable!! I really want to be able to sing pop and RnB but I'm stuck to low I'm just hoping...dat I have more range than dis..

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Hey man.

Slow it down, its hard to understand you writing like this.

Probably this classification is wrong, even if its not, what defines what you can perform on pop, in most cases, is the development.

Use the search function up there, you are not the first with similar questions and there are many recent threads that touch very similar content.

I recommend to get orientation and study/trainning ASAP, the sooner you begin working, the sooner you will get results.

GL!

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I do have a stupid question.

Wouldn't majoring in voice and already having a teacher be a fait accompli of getting orientation and training?

I would say, Vinziant, have patience. You already have a coach. Give him a chance.

As for R&B, Barry White was famous in that genre.

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No question supid he a great teacher...LOL see the thing...at first it was 2 a week he came to teach, den once, but he haven't came since 3 weeks ago now I'm hearing from other students he quit because school ain't paying him..smh, and the last time I sewn him he just started teaching me head voice and I got into it, I'm really trying to go on with my own study of this.

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Also Teddy Pendergrass, Isaac Hayes, Bebe Winans, Jeffrey Osborne, Al Jarreau... are/were all lower voices.

Tom Jones is also a very good technical role model for a barytone I think.

Nick

Excellent post, Nick.

And Vinziant, my stupid question was actually addressed to Felipe.

He was saying get some orientation and training, which is a way of saying get a coach or teacher, I think, though I could be wrong on that. And I am often wrong and easily admit when I am wrong.

In which case, I would assume you are already doing that, since you have been talking about your teacher.

So, I did not understand Felipe's comment and was asking for clarification. Sometimes, obvious things escape me and I can learn something new, every day.

Or, I don't understand the meaning of orientation and/or training.

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Vinziant, let me take a stab at this...

Without hearing you we can't exactly classify your voice, and even if we could hear you it's more of an art than a science. Based on the fact that you say your voice can go down to F2 but not down to say Eb2, D2, or C2, I would guess that you're a baritone of some sort. Possibly a bass-baritone, maybe another type of baritone. Possibly (although less likely) a true bass. Range isn't the only thing used to determine vocal fach, and so again, this is just educated guessing on my part.

Now, here's the good news. Vocal fach matters very little in non-classical music. The human voice is capable of singing three or more octaves fully connected, without using falsetto. Everyone experiences breaks or passaggios at some point in their voice. Whether there's one, two, three, or more is debatable and it can be different depending ont he singer.

For MOST singers, their biggest break is somewhere in the 4th octave. For most men (and some women) it happens right around E4-F4. So your experiencing difficulty starting at Eb4 is the same thing that just about every single male singer in human history has faced. Learning the proper technique will help you develop your voice to get past this hump.

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Thank you!!!! REM!! I got hope LOL, and I can't wait to learn the right teq, I could give an audio sample of my voice later on, but think u Sooooo much!! Wat I trufully wanted to know is that I'm the only one dat going through this and I'm I only limited to that...

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Sounds really good. Nice vowels - you even have a little vibrato going. When you got higher it seemed that the vowel spread a little. That's where modifying the vowels will help in the passagio.

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Thanks geno!!! That's Wat I've been stuggling with..when I'm going up higher like my vowels get so hard to keep shape, when my voice teacher.got me in head voice..he told me to change..the vowel sound and to keep it from gettin spreaded but its hard because I feel like the sound is pushing my mouth apart, hopefully when my school.pays him I can learn how to get up dere more because he said late this year or next fall semster he going to expect to get my mix voicegoing and by senior year I should have a smooth chest head and mixed, but I don't know Wat.gonna happen now

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Vinziant - if you want to get a head start - check out my thread about a nice video about the passagio. He has some very simple but effective exercises. There's one that is about changing "ah" to "aw" when going high. If you try to mimic his vowel shading you'll get the feel for a tone that is not spread. The other exercise is "ng" to "ah". Just try these and you'll start to feel it. Watch and listen very carefully. Each vowel gets modified in its own way - it reduces stress on the folds as you go high.

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