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breathing out without chest deflating (*diaphragm breathing)

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So I've been trying to figure out how to breathe/sing with my diaphragm, but I've realized that as long as I make a sound, my chest/ribs deflate faster than diaphragm. If I focus on not deflating chest/ribs, I end up breathing with it.

Initially I've been trying to breath deep and full with my diaphragm, but when I breathe out with ss sound, my chest deflates much faster than my expanded diaphragm/stomach. I guess I am still singing with chest? If I breath out without a sound, my chest/ribs dont deflate as fast. Once I even add a tiny bit of sound with vocal folds, my chest starts to deflate.

My main problem is I dont know how to have the sound come from my diaphragm. I still breath with diaphragm, but sing with chest. Am I supposed to sing deeper or something to feel diaphragmic singing?

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You could try holding your arms out wide and keeping them there throughout the breath (While training)

This is a good video to get the feeling of expansion. The key is to keep that rib expansion even after the breath ends. The new breath comes low while the expansion stays outward.

This exercise is a good test to see if you are even activating the right core muscles. If this is difficult to do and you feel any squeezing of the throat or tightness, you have some other areas that need to be fixed.

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you don't sing from or with the diaphragm. the diaphragm is lowered when you inhale and you need to develop the ability to actively (initially) control it's return.. you basically need to control exhalation.

you may need to focus on the sensation of breathing lower. don't move the chest or the shoulders. if the muscles that control the expansion down below are weak, you will need to work on maintaining the expansion with some breathing exercises....like controlled hissing, etc.

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