Tips/Tricks To Bridge Earlier

[Guest]

Hi everyone, I want to learn to bridge as early as possible. How can I do this?

- JayMC

[Owen Korzec]

Sing quieter. Start light and end light, on a siren, sing entire phrases low volume.

But this doesn't mean you need to sacrifice connectivity.

[Opaa]

How about descending slides where you "pull" the headvoice musculature lower and lower in the range?

[Slow Start]

Both Owen and Opaa's suggestions have been helpful for me. NG is a good phonation to work with for descending slides.

Also, practicing the puppy whining sound (ask me to post a link if you don't get what I'm talking about) to exercise and engage the tilting mechanism helps me get into early bridging.

And personally, I can really notice whether or not I'm bridging early enough when I use an AH/AW/UH/R kind of transition in my siren. If I'm not mistaken, the vowel modifications is also what allows it to narrow/bridge early/use more CT. Example here: https://www.box.com/s/zcn47nyq3zvd2fzixrbd

Hope this isn't too scatter-brained to be useful to you!

[Guest]

Wow that was great.. a little tiny flip on the way down but other than that I could fully here the lightmassing bridg phonation but the biggest surprise for me is the SINGERS FORMANT at the top. I could hear it it my own voice sometimes.

Can you post a comfortable NG puppy whine? You can email me through through the forum as well. It was like a beam of a sound at the top... AWESOME.

[Adoney]

I would suggest not bridging.... It seems that natural bridging happens with proper support. If you figure that out, you don't have to worry about it at all.

[ronws]

How about descending slides where you "pull" the headvoice musculature lower and lower in the range?

To me, "pulling head voice down" means not letting chest get too heavy. That's how i do it, anyway.

Others' mileage may vary.

[benny82]

I would suggest not bridging.... It seems that natural bridging happens with proper support. If you figure that out, you don't have to worry about it at all.

While not bridging can be an option it really limits your choice of vowels and sound colors in the high part of the voice.

That said, the easiest way of bridging is just pulling back on the volume as you go up (basically what Owen suggested). This will lead you into what CVT calls neutral in the high part of the voice and will also make you bridge early. In TVS this is called "lift-up pull-back".

The later you bridge the more intensive it gets on the support side. Just like Adon said: If you have big support, you don't need to bridge. But depending on the song, you sometimes just don't want to sing with 'full body', because you either want to sing soft or you have to sing very high for a long time, which gets insanely intensive on support and will fatigue you pretty quickly if you don't bridge.

[forest_gimp]

Jay, if you have the four pillars, i think the whole book delivers a clear answer to your question.

Practise the " lift up pull back", so that you get familiar with " early head placement" then, work on your coordination and calibration. This stuff is in the book.

The earlier you bridge, the closer you must be from the "ay" sound, as in " may ".

As you ascend into the head voice, you have to shift for a "uh" wovel, as in " run ".

I think the TVS method is the best if you want to bridge early and work on your low head tone.

If you want to bridge late and extend your chest voice, you may go for you the transcending tone workout from Jaime vandera's book.

Hope this helps.

[jonpall]

Hi everyone, I want to learn to bridge as early as possible. How can I do this?

- JayMC

Book a lesson with Robert Lunte.

Before you say you're short on cash - everyone is, but I'd still suggest that you then just put aside something little each month until you can finally do it. In a few years time, you'll NOT regret that investment, because it was an investment in your voice and you were smart.

[Owen Korzec]

Book a lesson with Robert Lunte.

Before you say you're short on cash - everyone is, but I'd still suggest that you then just put aside something little each month until you can finally do it. In a few years time, you'll NOT regret that investment, because it was an investment in your voice and you were smart.

This.

Plus Jay you already are bridging early in your files, so keep doing what you are doing. Then Rob will really help you get it stronger and more connected.

[VideoHere]

does anybody ever consider learning to bridging late first (or as lord said don't do it at all) and then learning to lighten later?

why is it that you have to learn to bridge early?

[Adoney]

does anybody ever consider learning to bridging late first (or as lord said don't do it at all) and then learning to lighten later?

why is it that you have to learn to bridge early?

I wonder the same thing...

I don't bridge at all, and lightening up isn't really that easy for me... not in the sense of using falsetto or headvoice.

I am constantly full, and can get up to 5th octave that way, which is just as high as I can go with falsetto anyways, so I'm not losing any range by not bridging.

[VideoHere]

i agree.....it's a more involved, more physically demanding way, but the results are worth it. and now i find i can back off the gas when i want because my ability to hold back the air has gotten better.

[Adoney]

More natural for me.... The passagio is so noticeable when you are a low baritone, and my falsetto sounds very unpleasant naturally. I, for a long time, was singing through my nose and using falsetto... Never really worked for me though.

[VideoHere]

i know no one will buy this, but when the support is really there and well maintained all the way through (the tricky physical part), and the throat is then relaxed and open, the larynx is stable and you've got the right vowel i don't really experience a passaggio.....

i don't anticipate one, i don't listen for one, as dan says i just sing.....

[gno]

does anybody ever consider learning to bridging late first (or as lord said don't do it at all) and then learning to lighten later?

That's how I did it Bob. I guess I was used to singing in a full voice, so it was easier for me to do it up around Bb4.

Now I'm learning to lighten up and bridge a lot lower. This is a different kind of singing than what I'm used to. But I'm glad to learn it.

Not sure if one way is better than the other? I guess for me it was important to learn how to belt it out. That was a higher priority for me than singing quietly. Should I have learned the quiet way first? Maybe. However, I may have thought that doing it quiet was the "right way" and missed out on the other way. I think Lou gramm bridges higher but I don't know for sure.

[ronws]

Even when I sing at my normal speaking level, I am controlling the breath and resonance. I think even you, Adon, said something similar.

So people who feel like they are not bridging at all, and I consider myself the same, are actually "past" the bridge when we open our mouths to sing.

What makes me dare to say that? Mel Tillis. Life-long stutterer. But sings beautiful and clear from the first note, because his breathing is different in singing than in speaking or stuttering.

[VideoHere]

geno, either way...but for me light and strong can seem like the same....and boy i have no idea how to explain my way out of that one...lol!!!!!

i just think a singer just creates a crutch and stumbling block for himself when he perceives a switch, a transition, a change as something he has to "go into."

maybe in the beginning..i guess..but that's all.

i would still be smacking my voice up against a brick wall if it wasn't for learning to narrow the vowel on the way up.

[MDEW]

Even when I sing at my normal speaking level, I am controlling the breath and resonance. I think even you, Adon, said something similar.

So people who feel like they are not bridging at all, and I consider myself the same, are actually "past" the bridge when we open our mouths to sing.

What makes me dare to say that? Mel Tillis. Life-long stutterer. But sings beautiful and clear from the first note, because his breathing is different in singing than in speaking or stuttering.

Some people who sing without knowing better( most likely they are right ) already start with a heady sound.

Singing like Michael jackson. Stevey wonder. Even if they are baritones. They will not need a bridge. They are already in "Head".That is the way they learned or thought it was done.

Someone Like myself Listened to Folk singers. They had a style closer to Male speaking voice. That is how I learned or taught myself. Now I struggle with a bridge or must try to teach myself to sing Heady from the beginning so I will not need a bridge.

[Steven Fraser]

In a word: To cause an earlier bridge, close the vowels earlier in the upward scale. 1/2 or 1 whole step.

I hope this is helpful.