i needed to hear this

[VideoHere]

hi everyone,

this was a godsend video to help me alleviate my fears of pulling chest. perhaps it will help you too. it means i can relax and let the power out. i always hear everyone say how easy it's supposed to be and it was confusing me.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=SingingSuccess#p/u/0/cYs13DeNm4A

[Jens]

great tip!

[joshual]

yep great vid.

Had exactly the same problem. As i have a voice with naturally a lot of volume , I Was always trying to get the tone without the volume, saying to myself "you don't have to be so loud, you must contain the volume" and i realised last week i was 100% wrong. If i let the volume go, everything works fine, better pitch, better tone, i can work on distortion ( will certainly post a something of me singing soon on this subject).

But i have to say that it's not easy to don't have the bad habits come back, too much support etc...

Thanxs for sharing this vids!

[VideoHere]

yep great vid.

Had exactly the same problem. As i have a voice with naturally a lot of volume , I Was always trying to get the tone without the volume, saying to myself "you don't have to be so loud, you must contain the volume" and i realised last week i was 100% wrong. If i let the volume go, everything works fine, better pitch, better tone, i can work on distortion ( will certainly post a something of me singing soon on this subject).

But i have to say that it's not easy to don't have the bad habits come back, too much support etc...

Thanxs for sharing this vids!

thanks guys.....i am also a loud voiced kind of singer. i think the louder you get sometimes the better you can sound.

[jonpall]

I'd also like to add that vowel modification can often help. I was recording a song yesterday that had some high notes (A4) on difficult vowels. I modified the vowel slightly and I could sing those notes much louder and more resonant. But that video is spot on.

[VideoHere]

I'd also like to add that vowel modification can often help. I was recording a song yesterday that had some high notes (A4) on difficult vowels. I modified the vowel slightly and I could sing those notes much louder and more resonant. But that video is spot on.

at the risk of sounding stupid,

i'm still trying to read notes....

when you say a4 can you tell me... that's the fifth white key above miiddle c?

[joshual]

A4 is the note before the tenor high c ;)

[VideoHere]

A4 is the note before the tenor high c

josh, isn't the b the one before?

http://www.thevirtualpiano.com/

[Steven Fraser]

josh, isn't the b the one before?

http://www.thevirtualpiano.com/

VIDEOHERE: Yep, you are correct. The A is the white key just to the left of the B.

[jonpall]

It would ascend like this, chromatically: A4, A#4, B4, C5, C#5, ...

[Mr Bounce]

This video is important for SS followers because SS teaches that singing should be easy. I think fundamentally they are right, but they never talk about breathing, and I'm only now slowly beginning to learn about it, with experiment and the great posts on this forum. "Support" definitely does not feel easy when you are a novice, and especially when you can't afford a teacher and have to do it by "feeling" :D

[Steven Fraser]

This video is important for SS followers because SS teaches that singing should be easy. I think fundamentally they are right, but they never talk about breathing, and I'm only now slowly beginning to learn about it, with experiment and the great posts on this forum. "Support" definitely does not feel easy when you are a novice, and especially when you can't afford a teacher and have to do it by "feeling"

Mr. Bounce: 'Easy' is such a subjective word. In correct singing, there is definitely work, but it is of a specific kind, and for the singer struggling to find it, it very often turns out to be less then what was surmised. It is _so_ easy to overdo one or another part of it.

The video is spot-on in putting both the tension of the vocal bands and the air supply together in the efficiency of the phonation. If one or the other is insufficient for the other, then there is no balance, and the tone will be breathy, shouty or a vocal fry.

His comments about the 'core' of the voice (the phonation) are correct as well. You can hear, though, as he sings the ascending note pattern, that he is not pumping up the pressure. He is very much letting his registration adjust appropriately, and not pushing. So, it does prompt the question... did it look 'easy' as he did it? I think so.

IMO, the reason SS does not talk much about breathing is that the basics of 'coring' the voice for short notes can be done with microbreaths, and at medium volume, the support you need is almost automatic. When breath management is in order is when a larger breath has been taken in preparation for a longer note or phrase. Under those circumstances, breath pressure management comes into play to create the consistency of breath energy that the longer notes/phrases require.

All in all, a great little lesson. Thanks for posting the link.

[VideoHere]

steve, in full voice, vocalizing on "a" as in "rate" my current ability level is an a#4. any rough estimate of how long it will take to get to a b note? any advice at all is greatly apprecaited.

[jonpall]

VIDEOHERE, like I said in a previous post, I think you would find it very helpful to post an example of yourself singing that vowel in that C4-C5 range. You're most likely doing something wrong and I'm sure some people here will spot it instantly when they hear it and can give you something that can really help you, right away. "Ay" as in "stay" is a vowel you should be able to sing fairly loud with in the tenor range, i.e. it's not a difficult vowel, so you may not need to modify it. It could very well be another issue, like breathyness or something. Or tension. Have you simply tried the infamous SS way of using a "cry" sound when you do this? Do you have enough twang? And to start of with, don't get TOO loud. I'm sure it's just a minor thing that can be fixed fairly quickly. You're already such a great singer - there's not that much left to "fix" in your voice, IMO I'm not just saying that - that's what I think.

[Snorth]

Pretty good lesson for curbing, a tenors best friend. IMO at least ;)

[VideoHere]

VIDEOHERE, like I said in a previous post, I think you would find it very helpful to post an example of yourself singing that vowel in that C4-C5 range. You're most likely doing something wrong and I'm sure some people here will spot it instantly when they hear it and can give you something that can really help you, right away. "Ay" as in "stay" is a vowel you should be able to sing fairly loud with in the tenor range, i.e. it's not a difficult vowel, so you may not need to modify it. It could very well be another issue, like breathyness or something. Or tension. Have you simply tried the infamous SS way of using a "cry" sound when you do this? Do you have enough twang? And to start of with, don't get TOO loud. I'm sure it's just a minor thing that can be fixed fairly quickly. You're already such a great singer - there's not that much left to "fix" in your voice, IMO I'm not just saying that - that's what I think.

thanks so much my friend..i'm very flattered....

i did post a sample

steve, had asked me to send a sample to graph

all i wanted to do here is acend through the passagio stay in full voice and get that ring

just screwing around

http://www.box.net/shared/qv46zfu2j0