who has any gains to report?

[VideoHere]

lately i'm on a roll...my voice feels great, i weaned myself off the prilosec and improved my phlegm situation..

wish the store was busier...but i'm hanging in there.

how about you folks...want to share any gains?

let the improvements flow!!!

let's focus on the positives!!!

[Owen Korzec]

My most recent gain has probably been being able to add in a little vibrato at the end of notes, in chest voice. It's a lot easier than I initially expected. I find if I tune the resonance right the vibrato comes much easier.

Right before that my gain was getting better at raising the soft palate and removing nasality for a more beautiful tone. Which I think actually helped lead to the development of that little bit of vibrato.

My chest voice range is also improving, getting higher belts.

That's all I've got for now. Good thread idea. I think this should be an ongoing one like your magic moments thread.

[Mivke]

I'm finally getting a more reliable head voice with less tension

It's shaky, but a lot less effort needs to be put in for the sound coming out. Also getting some covers sounding nicer with the band for our first gig.

Cheers!

[Owen Korzec]

I'm finally getting a more reliable head voice with less tension

It's shaky, but a lot less effort needs to be put in for the sound coming out. Also getting some covers sounding nicer with the band for our first gig.

Cheers!

Mivke just from my own experience a shaky head voice can easily be fixed with a little more exhalation force. Don't hold back so much and the tone will come out steadier. And that doesn't mean effort because you don't need to add squeeze just give it more air fuel, maybe even open the throat a bit, and watch what happens.

That was one of my big gains a while back. I used to have the shaky head voice and then once I put my mentality on blowing more air it got a lot steadier.

[eggplantbren]

Three months ago I had a lesson with CVT teacher Claudia Sansoucie and learned how to support. Since then I've made more progress than in the 5 years before that. Now I can sing songs by all the bands I like without fear.

[Owen Korzec]

Three months ago I had a lesson with CVT teacher Claudia Sansoucie and learned how to support. Since then I've made more progress than in the 5 years before that. Now I can sing songs by all the bands I like without fear.

That's awesome.

I just ordered the CVT book so what should I keep in mind about their support technique, that may not be as apparent in the book? Is it just about not always holding back, like what we discussed in a recent thread?

[Sethis21]

@Owen: I used to blow much more air a while ago, I couldn't really control my full voice in lower volumes. I guess I went through different stages than you did. At first my voice was really weak, then too loud and now I'm trying to find a middle ground. That loudness was pretty fatiguing let alone annoying and hard. I'm guessing it was also limiting as I leaned too much into the sound as I was afraid it would fall apart. So I was probably always in overdrive which as I've heard has a C5 limit.

Now I'm trying to sing above the passagio in lower volumes and I've managed it to a great extent. I could only sing in volumes like 8-10/10 and now I can go lower like 5-7.

I also had some jaw tension and it got much better but there's probably some left.

Another thing is that as I'm getting better I found that I can get away with "less than perfect" breath support. Not that's it's a reason to slack off of course. But I now think that obsessing over it imposed mental limitations on me.

My pronunciation has become much more fluent too. :)

[eggplantbren]

That's awesome.

I just ordered the CVT book so what should I keep in mind about their support technique, that may not be as apparent in the book? Is it just about not always holding back, like what we discussed in a recent thread?

Yeah, I was misinterpreting the book, and rereading it, I don't think it was my fault ;-) But what we actually did in the lesson was great. The pulling in of the abs (firmly but gradually - "like you're doing up a tight pair of jeans") while keeping the ribs extended helped a lot.

The other issue I had was singing too quietly and fearfully for what I wanted to achieve. Just imagining singing freely helped a lot.

[gno]

Bob - good that you're off the prilosec. As far as improvements, I've made significant gains in learning how to sing up in the passagio lightly - without belting. Hope to share some audio examples soon.

[Danielformica]

i can hit a C22 in chest voice does that count:)

[eggplantbren]

C22? Sweet. I can't do that, but I can sing a C-16. Would need to set my alarm to remind me to do each oscillation though.

[Owen Korzec]

C22? Sweet. I can't do that, but I can sing a C-16. Would need to set my alarm to remind me to do each oscillation though.

LMAO

On another note, if Dan made a typo and meant C2, I would like to hear it.

[Danielformica]

I actually meant C222

[jonpall]

C22 is way too high - only bats and dogs could possibly hear that.

Because of that, I never go higher than C16.

[Felipe Carvalho]

I actually meant C222

But is it a pure vowel with appoggio, legatto and other italian names with lots of consonants?

[MDEW]

Now I know why I get that really High pitch whisting sound in my ears every now and then. :P

[Consumingfire39]

I grew an inch over the last 9 years.

[ThePowerOfOne]

I actually meant C222

But can you sustain it with vibrato? huh?

[Mr Bounce]

I guess everyone here must be a perfect singer already I thought singing was a journey of constant self improvement

For me, I keep bouncing around between focussing on different parts of singing and realising that they're all interconnected (support, phonation, resonance, twang, etc) Some methods focus on only one exclusively but the truth is they're all important ... At least that is my truth :D

[Owen Korzec]

I guess everyone here must be a perfect singer already I thought singing was a journey of constant self improvement

For me, I keep bouncing around between focussing on different parts of singing and realising that they're all interconnected (support, phonation, resonance, twang, etc) Some methods focus on only one exclusively but the truth is they're all important ... At least that is my truth

Yes you have found the truth.

I find it ridiculous when a method tries to teach it all through resonance all through laryngeal coordination or all through breathing. It's as if the teacher doesn't even understand the fundamental concept of singing being all about balancing those three.

[VideoHere]

don't stop, or veer off the path folks......touting your achievements is very beneficial to your never ending progress.

because some gains might be temporary or fleeting and you need to get them back....sometimes.

[benny82]

C22 is way too high - only bats and dogs could possibly hear that.

Because of that, I never go higher than C16.

OMG, you are wasting your time. Just about everyone knows that the natural beauty of the voice is expressed pretty much at B15. However, Personally I still mess up the passaggio from supra-head voice into ultra-head voice. Any ideas?

[jonpall]

OMG, you are wasting your time. Just about everyone knows that the natural beauty of the voice is expressed pretty much at B15. However, Personally I still mess up the passaggio from supra-head voice into ultra-head voice. Any ideas?

Yes, whenever you're having problems singing, such as the ones you mentioned above, simply do heavy weight lifting and buy cool clothes so no one will care too much about your singing technique. ;)

[MDEW]

Yes, whenever you're having problems singing, such as the ones you mentioned above, simply do heavy weight lifting and buy cool clothes so no one will care too much about your singing technique.

Spandex Jump suits. That's why the guys from the 70's sounded so good.

[VideoHere]

folks, can we get back on track here?