gilad Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hey Guys. I am not going into detail in what my ENT diagnosed because I have it in detail in the "Vocal Health" section. Anyways, I have been having issues with loss of notes in my mid-high range. When I add more air pressure, everything is fine. Also, had an Issue of doing vocal fry. The ENT said I need to relax my muscles more, and then did a massage/manual manipulation of the voice box. Then I was able to do the vocal fry. She said I need to relax the voice box muscles more. Then she also said, my vocal overuse issue is for the most part cause by undeveloped resonance. Anyone have any tips to get me to fix these 2 issues? Thanks! So glad I am back in the game :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny82 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I have similar issues too sometimes. Mainly because I developed a habit to speak with a heightened larynx and insufficient airflow. Here is a good excercise I sometimes use to recalibrate: - use your usualy speaking pitch and say the word "bob", pronounce the "o" just as in the word "sock", so a short vowel - at the same time (this is very important) imagine to speak in a straight line forward right through your mouth Just practice a bit with that. If you go low enough in pitch, vocal fry should activate automatically. After you have done some short "bob"'s you can just hold the "oooo" but say it in the same fashion you used for "bob". This will give you a very efficient, small-but-resonant chest voice. Always remember to speak in a straight line out of your mouth (not through your nose or through your voice box or something like that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 It also helps to find resonance using a PA system. Once you find the setup for good resonance, your voice will boom out of a PA system. Whereas without one, you might not notice the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I have similar issues too sometimes. Mainly because I developed a habit to speak with a heightened larynx and insufficient airflow. Here is a good excercise I sometimes use to recalibrate: - use your usualy speaking pitch and say the word "bob", pronounce the "o" just as in the word "sock", so a short vowel - at the same time (this is very important) imagine to speak in a straight line forward right through your mouth Just practice a bit with that. If you go low enough in pitch, vocal fry should activate automatically. After you have done some short "bob"'s you can just hold the "oooo" but say it in the same fashion you used for "bob". This will give you a very efficient, small-but-resonant chest voice. Always remember to speak in a straight line out of your mouth (not through your nose or through your voice box or something like that). Might want to more specifically clarify the vowel shade, maybe use the IPA chart. The pronounciation of that vowel seems to vary a lot by dialect. For instance around where I live we have the cot/caught merger. I don't know if you are talking about the more rounded aw here on the less rounded one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 are you supporting the voice when you sing? support is so important to vocal health.....are you doing it when you speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hey Gilad hit me on Skype..I see alot of issues lately with to much tension because of all the "support" talk and "physically" demanding threads. This is how you end up with tension and strain in the voice. If you "support" correctly there is no strain. The problem is "support" gets thrown around like it is powerlifting and then you end up with these problems. I have had to help 3-4 students in the last month because of the confusion. It's a fairly "easy" fix..;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Something that I might have hinted at before might help. Motion, when necessary, in the abs. Note in the head. Nothing in the throat, ever, amen. Kind of reads like an haiku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilad Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Thanks Guys! Benny: Tried it, and still nothin... Keith: I understand how you think there, but I really want to feel my resonance without a PA system. Plus, I have no funds for a PA system at the moment. Thanks to Uncle Sam. Yes, you're Uncle Sam. Owen: I appreciate your recommendation, but I dont think the IPA chart is what is going to help me develop the right resonance.. I might be wrong.. Videohere: Don't start with unbelievable term "support" again! Daniel: Youv'e got it bro!! Catch you soon. Ronws: It sounds so right, but very difficult to follow. I will give it a try though. Did I miss anyone? THX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 To feel and experience the difference of resonance take a note in the middle of your range above speaking voice but not too high. Hold the pitch steady and experiment with mouth shapes and intensities. Move the back of your tongue forward and backward, higher and lower. Resonance is making the mouth and throat cavities the proper size to enhance the sound waves. I am not a teacher I may have some things wrong but general principle is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Here is a video made by Felipe on resonance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uopS6H8NZZ0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 i will continue to espouse the benefits of correct support..lol!!!! just ignore me if you want lol!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilad Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Videohere: Not going to happen MDEW: THanks! I did vocal exercises today, and I experienced something I use to experience a few months ago. Forgot to ask the Dr. what it is. When I sing in my mid range, at a certain point. (and this is very difficult to describe but i will try) the sound goes toward my Eustachian tubes?? is that the right word. Like when I decend with the aircraft my tubes get clogged. So the feeling is like they are partly clogged and the sound goes toward them, so very hard to understand what is going on with the sound... Does this make sense? Kind of like the vibration in my inner ear is too great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ronws: It sounds so right, but very difficult to follow. I will give it a try though. And I think you understand, Gilad. For my little haiku sounds simple but it requires constant attention, at first. To others, it may sound easy, lazy even. But concentration is harder than muscular activity. Anyone can clench their abdominals and let forth a blast of air. But to control that ... that's the "difficult part." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Adolph Namlik Posted August 21, 2013 Administrator Share Posted August 21, 2013 Videohere: Not going to happen MDEW: THanks! I did vocal exercises today, and I experienced something I use to experience a few months ago. Forgot to ask the Dr. what it is. When I sing in my mid range, at a certain point. (and this is very difficult to describe but i will try) the sound goes toward my Eustachian tubes?? is that the right word. Like when I descend with the aircraft my tubes get clogged. So the feeling is like they are partly clogged and the sound goes toward them, so very hard to understand what is going on with the sound... Does this make sense? Kind of like the vibration in my inner ear is too great... Gilad, I noticed that you mentioned the Eustachian tubes and I couldn't help but to share this article. These techniques were taught to me by my chiropractor and perhaps they may work for you. They have helped me immensely and I hope they will work for you as well... (???). >>> http://www.themodernvocalist.com/profiles/blogs/ear-problems-and-the-eustacian Note : Please note the comments as well..... I was really pleased to read that these techniques were of help to others Warmest Regards, Adolph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilad Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 Gilad, I noticed that you mentioned the Eustachian tubes and I couldn't help but to share this article. These techniques were taught to me by my chiropractor and perhaps they may work for you. They have helped me immensely and I hope they will work for you as well... (???). >>> http://www.themodernvocalist.com/profiles/blogs/ear-problems-and-the-eustacian Note : Please note the comments as well..... I was really pleased to read that these techniques were of help to others Warmest Regards, Adolph Thanks Adolf! I really appreciate your concern. Problem is, I dont have issue with drainage in my ears. Its more like its all open. I get the sound resonating in my ear but from the inside. A weird feeling to say the least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now