Kanade Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Okay. I'm new here, and would REALLY love to discuss vocals and my voice in particular but I need some urgent help right now. I apologize for being so selfish. The thing is that I'm going to sing one song in front of a lot of people in THREE DAYS (I'm so nervous). I love singing but I've just started learning it! I'm really bad at singing it without singing along. I need some help and I would highly appreciate if you could tell me what notes does the singer start the song with? And also some basic notes present in the vocals of the song that would help me to sing in tune. I have a good ear for music actually but vocals have always been my weak side. I don't have any music education. The story of how I ended up singing is long, and if anyone's interested I'll tell you later. P.S. I'm really happy I found this forum, because no one from my surroundings enjoys singing. Please, help! I would be very very grateful. The song is this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't think you can learn to sing in 3 days. Actually, less then 3 days, now, But good luck, anyway. It is not an emergency or urgent rush for anyone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanade Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Thank you. However, I need to do my best. And I would really appreciate if someone could help me out with the notes and not with making me lose any few confidence in my singing I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensTP Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Well if your pianist/orchestra has the right sheet music it'll be in A major. The first note is E4 (the fifth of the chord). Mostly everything after that is up and down scales in the range of A3 to A4 with very few strange intervals, so if you have a reasonable sense of relative pitch you'll do just fine. Don't get distracted by the notes you miss - just focus on getting back in tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanade Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Well if your pianist/orchestra has the right sheet music it'll be in A major. The first note is E4 (the fifth of the chord). Mostly everything after that is up and down scales in the range of A3 to A4 with very few strange intervals, so if you have a reasonable sense of relative pitch you'll do just fine. Don't get distracted by the notes you miss - just focus on getting back in tune. Thank you very much! If I had sheet music I wouldn't be worried about performing but I have trouble recognizing notes just because I don't have much experience yet. I practice violin and I have no trouble recognizing notes there. However, singing is more difficult for me. Thank you very much for your advice. I've been practicing and practicing and I have 3 nights left. So I need to speed up. I suspected the range was similar to what you said since the Japanese tend to sing in that range. I myself when taking academic vocals lessons can go up to F5 but pop singing is not the same, unfortunately. Thank you once again, that has really helped a lot. P.S. I have the instrumental version of the song, so I'll be using it. I won't have anyone actually playing on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Carvalho Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't understand why going out to perform in front of an audience without being prepared to do so, in 3 days you will not be able to fix much. Only thing that could help at this point is listenning to the song on the time you have left, try to pay attention to different parts of the instruments and memorize the whole thing. Go through the song a few times writing down the lyrics by hand. Then finaly write it down from memory, trying to recall the melody in details. If you cant remember a part, go back to listenning the song, write it down again, then back to it just by memory, until you can write the whole thing. GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanade Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't understand why going out to perform in front of an audience without being prepared to do so, in 3 days you will not be able to fix much. Only thing that could help at this point is listenning to the song on the time you have left, try to pay attention to different parts of the instruments and memorize the whole thing. Go through the song a few times writing down the lyrics by hand. Then finaly write it down from memory, trying to recall the melody in details. If you cant remember a part, go back to listenning the song, write it down again, then back to it just by memory, until you can write the whole thing. GL. ? But I do remember the lyrics? It's one of my favorite songs. I do remember the melody. But I'm not experienced enough to be able to sing it well just because I remember the melody, unfortunately. Yes, it's not going to fix much. They're not expecting me to sing like a pro anyway, but there's a difference between being totally out of tune or having only a few moments like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Your greatest strength that could help you now is your ability to read violin music which happens to be written in the same clef as singing. What I would recommend is to purchase vocal sheet music for this ASAP, making sure its in the key of A, and work on playing its melody through on violin. The idea is essentially you need to convince yourself that singing it in tune can be easy as playing it on violin. The notes are the exact same! Then try to sing along looking at the music with the same melody you played on the violin so you have both you ear and eyes to guide you. Just a thought, maybe that will help. If it doesn't, don't waste your time on it, Felipe's advice would be better Also if the sheet music is helping, see if you can bring it to the performance. If you can read off the music that will be a big help because it completely eradicates the need to memorize everything which is the most nervewracking part for most people. Another thing that will help you on learning it by ear is to go through the song phrase by phrase in this manner - listen to the original recording, pause, sing it back a capella. Making sure your the pitches sound right when you sing it back. Start by practicing it like that, then move on to singing along with the original, then move onto singing with a karaoke track or entirely a capella. But spend the most time on imitating the melody phrase by phrase. With the correct lyrics too of course. One final idea, if you playing it on violin would sound better, ask the person running the show if you can do that instead. Any audience member would much rather hear good violin playing than poor singing. Keep your expectations low because you're not going to turn into a professional singer in three days, the best you can do is practice enough that you don't make a complete fool of yourself. And even if you do and your audience happens to be rude enough to boo you or leave the room, just remember you are not in physical danger. You're not gonna die. Your life can't possibly be ruined either from one bad performance. Your life will go on perfectly fine after this performance. Until then, the best you can do is practice as hard and as SMART as you can. Literally put all of your free time into practicing this. Of course you don't want to blow out your voice from all that practice so when you feel if needs rest just listen to the song over and over again trying to memorize the melody and lyrics. Three days is actually a lot of time if you use them well. Not enough time to BECOME a good singer but to learn one song, its not too bad. Good luck. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh I see, so you know the melody but can't sing it back because your vocal technique isn't getting the pitches out right? Then spend a lot of time on that playing each phrase, pausing, singing it back a capella approach. It will take some trial and error but you'll be able to hear when you're closest to on pitch and when you get it like that, drill the phrase a capella so you can get familiar with the physical of sensation of singing it on pitch. Do that for each phrase throughout most of your practice time, then put it all together the night before you perform. Also don't be afraid to practice the phrases very slowly at first so you have time to correct your pitch. Then eventually once you feel those right pitches, see if you can hear the pitch in your head before you sing it which will help the correct pitch come out immediately instead of searching for it. Does that all make sense to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanade Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Oh I see, so you know the melody but can't sing it back because your vocal technique isn't getting the pitches out right? Then spend a lot of time on that playing each phrase, pausing, singing it back a capella approach. It will take some trial and error but you'll be able to hear when you're closest to on pitch and when you get it like that, drill the phrase a capella so you can get familiar with the physical of sensation of singing it on pitch. Do that for each phrase throughout most of your practice time, then put it all together the night before you perform. Also don't be afraid to practice the phrases very slowly at first so you have time to correct your pitch. Then eventually once you feel those right pitches, see if you can hear the pitch in your head before you sing it which will help the correct pitch come out immediately instead of searching for it. Does that all make sense to you? Yes it does! That's a very good advice actually, thank you! I kept on singing the whole song at once without diving it into parts/phrases. But that's exactly how I used to learn sheet music for violin (divide it into parts and learn). Thank you! As for the sheet music for the song, it doesn't exist really. I could ask someone to transcribe it but it takes time which I don't have right now. If I had it, I wouldn't be so troubled. I can sing in tune perfectly if I have the notes right away but lol, luck doesn't know me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I don't think you can learn to sing in 3 days. Actually, less then 3 days, now, But good luck, anyway. It is not an emergency or urgent rush for anyone here. ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 kanade: program yourself: (the mind cannot tell the difference between that which is real or vividly imagined.) reach deep into your mind and say to yourself or out loud... i am going to sing this song well. i am going to tell the story of the song. i will be genuine and honest to my audience. strive to do your best....remove negative thoughts or the mind will see that you get your wish. feed yourself positive thoughts. now, set aside some time to just go through the performance in your mind....visualize yourself captivating your audience with you being yourself. deeply visualize all the details...you looking great, the audience clapping, the notes flowing out with dead on pitch, all of it...every detail, every nuance get it covered. your audience wants you to do well. do not allow yourself to think negatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanade Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 VIDEOHERE and everyone else, thank you so much! Thanks to you everything went well! I was VERY nervous, so nervous I couldn't hold my microphone straight But at least I was in tune and performed well. Phew, we celebrated that with wine afterwards :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 VIDEOHERE and everyone else, thank you so much! Thanks to you everything went well! I was VERY nervous, so nervous I couldn't hold my microphone straight But at least I was in tune and performed well. Phew, we celebrated that with wine afterwards Congratulations on a successful performance! You deserved to celebrate for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I second what Owen said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 congrats!! the mind cannot tell the difference between that which is real or vividly imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 congrats!! the mind cannot tell the difference between that which is real or vividly imagined. I couldn't help but chuckle how you timed this mantra "I did well, we celebrated afterwards!" "The mind cannot tell the difference between that which is real and that which is vividly imagined." That's a riot! I'm not poking fun, I just have a bad sense of humor. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 it's very true and has strong application to singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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