laugh if you want

[VideoHere]

okay,

folks you'll all probably think i'm nuts, but i'm proud to say, i've added a 1/2 step of full voice range to my vocals.

i can hit and hold a b4 now (one away from t.h.c)....and you know what....i'm #$%^%^&$ thrilled.

elapsed time:...almost 6 mos. but in addition to hitting it, i found this new "pocket" high up in my soft palatte where i have the muscle development (i guess it's that) to place the note. guess i stretched the soft palette as well? yeahhhhh!!!!

[Martin H]

6 months? Give it 3 more years and you'll sing a solid F5! Who's laughing now?? NO ONE

Great job man....keep up the good work:)

[kalapoka]

Congrats Bob!! What's your natural range? Baritone?

[Steven Fraser]

okay,

folks you'll all probably think i'm nuts, but i'm proud to say, i've added a 1/2 step of full voice range to my vocals.

i can hit and hold a b4 now (one away from t.h.c)....and you know what....i'm #$%^%^&$ thrilled.

elapsed time:...almost 6 mos. but in addition to hitting it, i found this new "pocket" high up in my soft palatte where i have the muscle development (i guess it's that) to place the note. guess i stretched the soft palette as well? yeahhhhh!!!!

Bob: Congrats!

[ronws]

Not laughing at all. And, in fact, it points out the reality of singing from the thread from another poster who worries that his voice isn't improving fast enough. It all takes time and work.

[chele1000]

Congrats!...and keep up the great work. :)

[gno]

Bob - that's great! Nice job!

[Snax]

That's amazing Bob! Enjoy buddy!

[VideoHere]

thanks folks.

i apprecaite it.

it felt so cool to hit this "pocket"

i believe i'm a tenor or steve told me i was i think.

tell me, what accounts for the increase....is it a lengthened soft palatte?..stronger neck muscles...what actually is the improvement physiologically?

[Steven Fraser]

thanks folks.

i appreciate it.

it felt so cool to hit this "pocket"

i believe i'm a tenor or steve told me i was i think.

tell me, what accounts for the increase....is it a lengthened soft palatte?..stronger neck muscles...what actually is the improvement physiologically?

Bob, Yep, that was my assessment, based on the tone color/quality. I think you have a big tenor voice, and are just learning how really to handle it.

The stability of the range has nothing to do with a 'lengthened soft palate', or stronger neck muscles. Perhaps, though, in a particular kind of action of one of the' neck muscles'. The physiological change is likely in three places:

1) the coordinated action of the muscle of pitch control... specifically finding the 'little bit longer and thinner' configuration of the vocal bands that goes with this Bnatural.

2) A suitable resonance adjustment for that note.

3) A firmer laryngeal anchoring by the sternothyroid muscles. These are muscles, arising from the sternum, that connect to the side faces of the thyroid cartilege. They help prevent the larynx from rising.

Then next step, to get the C, comes with continuing to explore the vowels that should be sung in that range. When I have a chance, I will write an article about the vowel modifications appropriate in that region.

[VideoHere]

Bob, Yep, that was my assessment, based on the tone color/quality. I think you have a big tenor voice, and are just learning how really to handle it.

The stability of the range has nothing to do with a 'lengthened soft palate', or stronger neck muscles. Perhaps, though, in a particular kind of action of one of the' neck muscles'. The physiological change is likely in three places:

1) the coordinated action of the muscle of pitch control... specifically finding the 'little bit longer and thinner' configuration of the vocal bands that goes with this Bnatural.

steve, you're so right..it is litterally a "finding" a pleasant "discovery"

2) A suitable resonance adjustment for that note.

again a finding of that "pocket" / "place" per that singer.

3) A firmer laryngeal anchoring by the sternothyroid muscles. These are muscles, arising from the sternum, that connect to the side faces of the thyroid cartilege. They help prevent the larynx from rising.

when i do my "goog" and "gugg" exercise with a cry sound, i get a real worked feeling in some muscles.

Then next step, to get the C, comes with continuing to explore the vowels that should be sung in that range. When I have a chance, I will write an article about the vowel modifications appropriate in that region.

steve, once again, i am so grateful for the opportunity to tap your expertise.

you are great

oh $%^ my replies are interspersed within the quotes!! (above)

b.t.w. the b4 was an scale from "ah" (as in apple) to an ugh..as in "rough" does that sound right?

[VideoHere]

6 months? Give it 3 more years and you'll sing a solid F5! Who's laughing now?? NO ONE

Great job man....keep up the good work:)

yes martin, but i'll be 60 by then. lol!!

[ronws]

yes martin, but i'll be 60 by then. lol!!

So, you'll be 60 and doing an F5. Dio was over 60 and still hitting it on stage with the band Heaven and Hell, with buddies from Black Sabbath, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler.

But, I don't think it will necessarily take 3 years, as hard as you are working.

[VideoHere]

So, you'll be 60 and doing an F5. Dio was over 60 and still hitting it on stage with the band Heaven and Hell, with buddies from Black Sabbath, Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler.

But, I don't think it will necessarily take 3 years, as hard as you are working.

thanks ron, i'm on a mission...lol!!!!

[ronws]

thanks ron, i'm on a mission...lol!!!!

Now you put an image in my mind. The Blues Brothers, John Belushi and Dan Akroyd in black suits and sunglasses. "We're on a mission ... from God."

[VideoHere]

Bob, Yep, that was my assessment, based on the tone color/quality. I think you have a big tenor voice, and are just learning how really to handle it.

The stability of the range has nothing to do with a 'lengthened soft palate', or stronger neck muscles. Perhaps, though, in a particular kind of action of one of the' neck muscles'. The physiological change is likely in three places:

1) the coordinated action of the muscle of pitch control... specifically finding the 'little bit longer and thinner' configuration of the vocal bands that goes with this Bnatural.

2) A suitable resonance adjustment for that note.

3) A firmer laryngeal anchoring by the sternothyroid muscles. These are muscles, arising from the sternum, that connect to the side faces of the thyroid cartilege. They help prevent the larynx from rising.

Then next step, to get the C, comes with continuing to explore the vowels that should be sung in that range. When I have a chance, I will write an article about the vowel modifications appropriate in that region.

steve, per your request...bob's "b" feel free to comment...simple recording method on my notebook, no amp. no effects..naked a jaybird lol! got it more this round on the "ah" rather than the "uh"

accapella.

http://www.box.net/shared/li0j4ipdre

[Steven Fraser]

steve, per your request...bob's "b" feel free to comment...simple recording method on my notebook, no amp. no effects..naked a jaybird lol! got it more this round on the "ah" rather than the "uh"

accapella.

http://www.box.net/shared/li0j4ipdre

Bob: Oh, yeah! Very cool. I'll do a spectragraphic analysis of one of the top notes and post it, so you can see the harmonic balance.

[VideoHere]

Bob: Oh, yeah! Very cool. I'll do a spectragraphic analysis of one of the top notes and post it, so you can see the harmonic balance.

that would help. but steve, if you could, just drop down a hair to give me a more easy-to-digest explanation.

i know one thing.... the more one's range improves the more intensity/volume choices become available on the notes below one's current level..i.e. my g4's and a4's are more variable?

[Steven Fraser]

http://www.box.net/shared/li0j4ipdre

i know one thing.... the more one's range improves the more intensity/volume choices become available on the notes below one's current level..i.e. my g4's and a4's are more variable?

Bob, yes, part of that is confidence that comes with growing familiarity.

Here is your spectragraph from one of the high Bs. I have labeled the harmonics H1 (fundamental) and so forth with light blue text, left to right, for ease of identification. You may need to click on it to enlarge it. See that harmonic 3 is the tall mountain, and 5 is also strong, while 1 and 2 are not nearly so? That combination of harmonic strengths is characteristic of the ringy tenor head voice. This is quite similar to the two tenors (Corelli and Pavarotti) whose spectragraphs I posted before. I have some other comments after the picture.

If you compare this to those of Corelli and Pavarotti, you will notice that their harmonic spikes are 'wider' than yours, especially the higher harmonics. This is because those singers have vibrato, which is a cyclical variation in frequency. For this exercise, your voice had very little (if any) vibrato. If there had been some, we would have seen it show up especially in the higher harmonics.

Bob, this is really smokin'. Listening to the exercise, you are starting to get a very easy approach to these, and getting a very good vowel form up top. Bravo. Here is an addition to your exercise that you can do: on the very last B you do, sustain it for a moment, and then add a slow 5-note scale down from it, paying attention to the color and ease of each note.

Congrats. Great work.

[gno]

steve, per your request...bob's "b" feel free to comment...simple recording method on my notebook, no amp. no effects..naked a jaybird lol! got it more this round on the "ah" rather than the "uh"

accapella.

http://www.box.net/shared/li0j4ipdre

Hey Bob - that sounds really good.

[analog]

I agree...fantastic job man!

[VideoHere]

I agree...fantastic job man!

thanks everyone..i really apprecaite it.

[Matt]

Yeah, getting a powerful voice there Bob! ;)

[VideoHere]

Yeah, getting a powerful voice there Bob!

thanks man...means a lot to me.