SupaCi Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 There's a gospel singer name Tonex who has really mastered his voice. He's mixed his chest voice and head voice so perfectly that his transition between them are effortless and unheard. In his vocal range video: Around @1:35 He gets in the 5th octave and he's able to continue to belt his head notes; creating a strong and resonate sound uncommon in men. I was told it was called a reinforced falsetto. Then someone else told me its just him belting his head notes in full voice (which doesn't sound right to me). And my personal opinion is that he just really mixes his voice well... So my question is, which one is it and how is it achieved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Fraser Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 There's a gospel singer name Tonex who has really mastered his voice. He's mixed his chest voice and head voice so perfectly that his transition between them are effortless and unheard. <clip snip> (up top) I was told it was called a reinforced falsetto. Then someone else told me its just him belting his head notes in full voice (which doesn't sound right to me). And my personal opinion is that he just really mixes his voice well... So my question is, which one is it and how is it achieved? SupaCi: It could be either, and it would be very difficult for the listener to tell the difference unless they were done side by side for comparison. As to how it is achieved... that's easier to answer (somewhat harder to do). He sings with firm fold closure, not particularly loudly, with enough twang to keep the bite in the tone, and uses differing vowels which resonate well for the various ranges. He probably lets his larynx rise for the extreme high range, but does so without constricting tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaCi Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 SupaCi: It could be either, and it would be very difficult for the listener to tell the difference unless they were done side by side for comparison. As to how it is achieved... that's easier to answer (somewhat harder to do). He sings with firm fold closure, not particularly loudly, with enough twang to keep the bite in the tone, and uses differing vowels which resonate well for the various ranges. He probably lets his larynx rise for the extreme high range, but does so without constricting tension. Hey! I live in Carrollton, Tx too! lol But thanks Mr. Fraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengperapol Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I think Mr.Robert can do that too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaCi Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 Who is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Fraser Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hey! I live in Carrollton, Tx too! lol But thanks Mr. Fraser. I Live up north of the Hebron Parkway, just east of Josey. Know that area? 'Go Hawks' :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Oh yeah, Steven? I worked on Castle Hill Elementary. Tom Hicks Elementary. That was a monster. 104,000 sq. feet built on the side of a hill. And I was in charge of the Carrollton-Farmers Branch Community Learning Center. It used to be a church and was turned into a kindergarten and admin center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Fraser Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Oh yeah, Steven? I worked on Castle Hill Elementary. Tom Hicks Elementary. That was a monster. 104,000 sq. feet built on the side of a hill. And I was in charge of the Carrollton-Farmers Branch Community Learning Center. It used to be a church and was turned into a kindergarten and admin center. Yeah, ronws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaCi Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 Of course. By the hospital? I live by Frankford and the Toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalapoka Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 was the last one a D7 or D6? not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Fraser Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 was the last one a D7 or D6? not sure... Doesn't it say on the screen? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalapoka Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Doesn't it say on the screen? It does, but I was wondering if it has been wrongly labeled, cuz the note just before that is C6, which I guess is the Female Soprano C? So D7 would be one octave plus a whole tone higher than the female soprano C? Just wondering if it might be a D6. Fahim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB20 Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I have often wondered this with other singers, for example Chris Cornell. His high stuff (say around D5) has so much weigh and power on it, i can't see how it could be achieved with any of the 3 ways mentioned. Another example I am curious about is Adam Lambert. When he sings up around G5 kinda territory, it's very pure but around his D5 it's a lot more powerful and gritty. Is he using the same technique and adjusting it to create different sounds or using two different parts of his voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I believe Lambert is using lots of twang and Cornell is using curbing technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I have often wondered this with other singers, for example Chris Cornell. His high stuff (say around D5) has so much weigh and power on it, i can't see how it could be achieved with any of the 3 ways mentioned. Another example I am curious about is Adam Lambert. When he sings up around G5 kinda territory, it's very pure but around his D5 it's a lot more powerful and gritty. Is he using the same technique and adjusting it to create different sounds or using two different parts of his voice? i sing some cornell, and i can you it's a lot of strongly supported head voice. just going for it...acting it...no holding back in the least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Amazing Technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 mmh but he is just using MLN, that is not difficult to do, here is me doing it at G5 https://soundcloud.com/gerardon89/g5 NO bro just no... that thing this guy does is very very hard to do... he alters between light curbing curbinglike neural up on top to mln and basicly to my ears he can probably do whatever the hell he wants with his voice spiltsecond riffs and runs between modes comeon... So no you cant say, "this is just MLN, ez mode" not one per thousand proffesional singers can do what this guy does with that quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Well it's probably curbing, but i dont think thats something thats outside of what this tonexguy can handle. I dont like the term "real belting" is there an unrealbelting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 well basicly all im saying just listen to some performances he has curbing up very high, basicly with that control he can choose what he wants. but he wails alot so thats why he uses alot of neutral. If there ever was a degree in vocalmastery this guy has it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNJjN_DcS_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 listen through some of his material, you find basicly everything that guy you posted dont even play in the same league and im actualy more into the music he does than this guy :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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