is there a proper/preferable order to vocal exercising?

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hi folks,

we all know to warm up the voice before going at our exercises. (roger kain though is an exception.) but i was wondering, is it okay to skip around through various routines or, for example, is it okay to alternate between falsetto and full voice work, or is there any sequential order of exercises, vowels, etc. that is not a good idea?

conversely, is there a more preferable exercise sequence that should be adhered to?

(perhaps one builds off another to achieve a culmulative benefit?)

and (hopefully i've articulated this whole idea well enough) i'm reffering to the exercises for a given day, run though all at one time.

so, for example don't exercise an "ee" before and "ah" etc.....knock of all the falsetto work before doing full voice, never alternatate loud and soft work.....

[ronws]

Well, more lately than previously, I have begun to work through a technique, rather than scales. Such as twang, or whining. Once I get in the resonating mood, then I do some short scales, no more than 3 or 4 notes. Then I just launch into a song. It may not be the best but it gets me going quickly.

[Jens]

Well after you warmup it's preferable to do all the "fineworks" of the voice as it's the most delicate configurations of the voice.

So after warmup practice whistlevoice and very high soft falsetto(if your into those sounds) before you move on to rougher more fullsounds.

Why is this?

Because fuller sounds tends to in most voices to be alot more dominant than the softerones, and can easily take over yourvoice. Thats why we often have to learn to not pull chest for instance.

This is just how it's worked for me others will probably have diffrent experiences

[gno]

This is a good topic.

Jens - that is an interesting approach.

I approach singing the same way I approach guitar. For me, I've found that the fastest way to excel is to practice excersizes in a certain sequence before launching into songs. Without a structure I will spin my wheels and waste valuable time.. and my gains will be slow. I've learned this from years (decades) of bad habits and haphazard approaches. My warmup is a set of excersizes. Takes me about 20 - 30 minutes, then I'm free to practice songs. My routine is simple: Going through my entire range using arppegios and scales: Starting with semioccluded lip rolls, then "ng" and then "ah". These are from the KTVA system. Then I practice Steven Frasers low singing excersizes. Then songs.

[Martin H]

I just sing songs. And if I find difficult parts - I structure my training to solve those parts. And that can be many things...all from soft high notes to heavy distortion etc. It's all individual and the training has to be "customized" to solve that specific problem (I believe this is the most efficient way to go about it!) Other times I just experiment and see how many sounds I can make....healthy of course.

That's how I practice. :)

[jonpall]

I did lots of vocal workouts in the past 2-3 years or so - Mark Baxter's "The rock 'n' roll singer's survival manual" and "5 secrets of screaming", Seth Rigg's "Singing for the stars", Jamie Vendera's "Raise your voice II" and the CVT book.

But recently I've been doing exercises I made up on my own that are based on Jamie Vendera's full voice sirens (actually done with medium volume) and also something really similar to what Martin described. Where did I get the idea to practise a lot like Martin? From Martin. But I only have a vague idea of how he practises so I'm sure I do tons of things differently. Which is probably good because each of us have different voices.

[Steven Fraser]

All: Here is a URL to an article on this topic from Ingo Titze, PhD. His recommended approach is very much like some of those posted above.

http://www.ncvs.org/e-learning/nats-pdfs/warm-up.pdf

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I just sing songs. And if I find difficult parts - I structure my training to solve those parts. And that can be many things...all from soft high notes to heavy distortion etc. It's all individual and the training has to be "customized" to solve that specific problem (I believe this is the most efficient way to go about it!) Other times I just experiment and see how many sounds I can make....healthy of course.

That's how I practice.

bob oh boy, if that didn't throw me for a loop martin. i figured someone of your caliber would be nestled away in a quiet room, with a stainless steel monogramed water bottle on hand, dilligently practising all of these high- level vocalizes and phonations i've never even heard of.....lol!!!

you see, i'm so glad i asked this question, because it doesn't have to be then a structured, highly regimented series of tiring work.

[Martin H]

VIDEOHERE,

Hahaha;)

Ex. What is a thousands of scales sung on a OO vowel at low volume gonna do -if what you really need is a high twangy EY for instance?? Probably nothing - besides that you get good at singing OO's

It's all about practicing smart!! You get good at what you practice...it's REALLY that simple. :)

[VideoHere]

VIDEOHERE,

Hahaha;)

Ex. What is a thousands of scales sung on a OO vowel at low volume gonna do -if what you really need is a high twangy EY for instance?? Probably nothing - besides that you get good at singing OO's

It's all about practicing smart!! You get good at what you practice...it's REALLY that simple.

can you recommend any exercise for helping me with that "i've been waiting" hurdle for that foreigner song?

i do scales of full voiced "i've been waiting" from f4 to d5 right now.

[ronws]

VIDEOHERE,

Hahaha;)

Ex. What is a thousands of scales sung on a OO vowel at low volume gonna do -if what you really need is a high twangy EY for instance?? Probably nothing - besides that you get good at singing OO's

It's all about practicing smart!! You get good at what you practice...it's REALLY that simple.

And the clouds part, with the angels of Heaven singing, "Ahhhh-mennnn".