Danielformica Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The idea that you bridge is sort of wrong. There are shifting points(the way the voice resonates freely) in everyones voice they are called "bridges". When you approach this place you manipulate the vowel so the resonance stays correct. that is all:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The idea that you bridge is sort of wrong. There are shifting points(the way the voice resonates freely) in everyones voice they are called "bridges". When you approach this place you manipulate the vowel so the resonance stays correct. that is all:) Cool topic. I think you accidently created a duplicate thread and you will now have to rely on the wizardy of Adolph to delete the duplicate. Or, it's a topic so big, it will need two threads. I know that technically, by some definitions of range classification, I am probably bridging by F4. But I honestly don't know, nor do I pay attention to it, nor could I now be bothered to watch it, even with the advent of this thread. All I know is I am looking for clean vowels, a full and "rounded" tone, if that is an accurate description. And usable volume that others may or may not interpret as "full voice." I don't even think about bridging, though I have talked about it in the past, when I thought I could be an expert in singing. But I was wrong, which doesn't scare me. I have been wrong many times. Nor am I worried about losing respect as a "singing expert." I would like to think I am a singer. Someone asked in a recent cover I did how I achieved a sound at a certain point and he wondered if I was doing something with the compression. I thought I was going for a rounded tone but I don't recall thinking about compression. So, I am not much help any more. But I like your idea because it kind of fits my own. The way to get "one voice" is to seek one voice, even if the voice makes adjustments along the way, the overall sonic or auditory effect is one voice. And yes, the better I get at vowel usage, the more relaxed and effortless it feels and sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Carvalho Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 lol Will this be duplicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Adolph Namlik Posted September 20, 2014 Administrator Share Posted September 20, 2014 lol Will this be duplicated? So far it hasn't !!! BTW, check the Social Home Page, Felipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted September 20, 2014 Administrator Share Posted September 20, 2014 Strange... it will probably blow over... nothing to worry about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Some call it tomato, some call it potato.. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Some call it tomato, some call it potato.. :cool: "potayto, potahto, tomayto, tomahto, let's call the whole thing off ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 one voice...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Adolph Namlik Posted September 20, 2014 Administrator Share Posted September 20, 2014 Strange... it will probably blow over... nothing to worry about... Seems everything is fine today :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 one voice...... yes but there are bridges you need to negotiate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 yes but there are bridges you need to negotiate When I go through Madison County in Texas, I think of the "Bridges of Madison County", though they are not fancy like the ones in the movie. These are just ordinary concrete and steel over creeks and rivers. But there be bridges to go over at about 75 mph. Yeehaw ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ronws.......That is how you handle it if you CANNOT find your bridge....... But if we imagine doing that with a Bicycle or motorcycle we will understand better........Same principle is applied "lift UP and Pull Back". :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 mdew the bridges are the same for everyone varying slightly but not much. all the work and science behind this was done years ago you just have to trust someone to show you thats it nothing new.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 mdew the bridges are the same for everyone varying slightly but not much. all the work and science behind this was done years ago you just have to trust someone to show you thats it nothing new.. As in singing you have to experience it to understand the reference.... When "jumping" a bicycle or motorcycle over a ramp you must "Lift" the handle bars and "Pull back" a little so you are not too heavy in the front, otherwise you will crash and burn........ I was using this as a metaphor to Roberts "Lift up and Pull Back" What's a Metaphor? Feeding cows. Hillbilly Humor. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyL Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I think about bridging as shifting gear while driving. The tricky parts are when you need to feel the "car" before you start shifting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 yes but there are bridges you need to negotiate dan, what exactly are we negotiating? i used to think the same, but i don't anymore. i see it now as shifting resonance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Bob you are negotiating the shifts in resonance but if you miss them you pull and sound pressed flat and the voice loses the resonance. I did not create these laws of resonance they have been around for a long time. But it takes a lot of getting out of your own way and humbling yourself to a degree to learn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I only bridge when I really, really really want to make my workouts harder. EDIT: I've burnt my bridges a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Shifting of resonance is probably closer to what I do, though I don't exactly call it that. I find the sweet spot and let whatever else adjust to keep it in the sweet spot. Vowel pockets is what I think Bob used to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 the bridge is not something i intentionally (either performing or exercising) go into or out of....anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Carvalho Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 You still adjust the vowels Bob, and that's what Dan's explaining that bridges are. Just that. You won't be able to sing like Dan does if you flip. And Dan is not telling people to flip either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 the bridge is not something i intentionally (either performing or exercising) go into or out of....anymore. well bob thats the thing you are not flipping, but you are not negotiating the bridges correctly if you were the resonance would stay consistent and the volume wouldnt have to get louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 i agree with you and felipe, but i don't believe you need to stay in the pocket 100% of the time because stylistically you might want to fall out intentionally and then correct and come back in. that's all i'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 right i get that, thats singing, stylizing, thats not doing vocal exercises for improvement in your technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivke Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Also, wouldn't you agree that the pocket kind of "expands"? As your technique improves, more stylizing can be done "inside" the pocket. I find my fatigue kicking in when you move in and out of it alot rather than something like singing high or raspy. As long as you manage to be in it, you can do what you do for a lot longer. My 2 cents at least :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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