Can anybody

[anotherreason25]

sing like this guy?

[ronws]

Good performance. The question should be, does someone want to sing like him? Maybe, you? If you want to go for that hypernasal sound, by all means, go ahead.

[anotherreason25]

Do you have any more to say about that?

[anotherreason25]

When you say hyper nasal I think .......

[anotherreason25]

That's just a bright resonance, not "nasality", I'd argue.

[anotherreason25]

And my question remains. I want people to either attempt singing like that, or singing that song in their own style for comparison; I'm collecting samples to expand my knowledge.

[anotherreason25]

You're right it's nasal resonance, but not what I'd consider obnoxiously nasal.

[Steven Fraser]

Do you want to sing like this?

[anotherreason25]

I want to BE ABLE to sing somewhat like that yes. I don't want to sound just like him, just in that style.

[ronws]

To me, the singer is singing hypernasal but not with the brightness of Fran Drescher.

As to your other statement, yes, you could sing in his style if you want to.

But, perhaps, I misunderstood your original question.

Can anybody sing like him, whether they sound like him or not?

Sure.

That just leaves the question of whether a person wants to sound like that. And I am not saying it's bad. I think you already like the guy's style and sound. That's great. In which, case I am in the wrong thread. You may be looking for others who want to sing like him, which would not include me.

So, I apologize for the confusion and interrupting your thread.

[Clint Torres]

This seems like an unfinished question or thought. "Can anyone sing like this." This question, in reality, leads to a short thread. A one post one word answer. YES! Because that's all you asked.

So what is the rest of your question? How do you sing like him, perhaps? Or sound like him? Or develop his style of singing? His sound, technique, phrasing, vibrato, tone, or any combination of?

I think for any of this one would first have to learn how to sing properly and develop good technique and fundamentals as well as an understanding of how the voice works in relation to singing and shaping sounds and notes and then from there learn to mimic.

[anotherreason25]

No no not at all ronws you've hit it. Really the AIM of the question, which I'm normally not particularly forthcoming about for personal reasons, is to see what dialogue could be started FROM said question. So in this case, HOW could someone sing like him, WHY does he sound that way? These kinds. Hope that's clearer for you.

Clint has led this where I'd like it go, (that's why I asked the question that way, it'd remain broad)

[ronws]

Okay then. I am not familiar with the song or the singer but one of things I hear in his singing is a strong sense of blues. And a bit of rasp on the higher notes, to give a feeling of forcefulness.

It's also quite rhythmic. He is not just reciting prose, his singing is like an instrument, just as much as the two guitars on either side of him. And I do like the song. Nor is his nasality all that offensive, just noticable. On the other hand, many have liked the cover of "Simple Man", originally by Lynrd Skynrd and covered by Shinedown and he's got some nasality and blues. In fact, his singing is not that different from what you linked.

[anotherreason25]

How do you embed videos from youtube here?

[anotherreason25]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg7xwsSTGnY&feature=youtu.be

[ronws]

You go to youtube. Find the video you want. Go up to the location bar and right click, which should highlight the page address. left click on "copy."

Then, in a post, here, click on the youtube button, which which will come up with a thing. You can then erase the /youtube. Right click and paste. Then click the youtube button again and get rid of the youtube.

Or, you can type these characters , then paste the address, then type, right after it,

Watch out for the address. Some address will show up as https. those don't embed. You have to get rid of the s in https, if that is the case.

[Felipe Carvalho]

I would begin by studying the interpretation line and melody, with the lyrics and discarding all these maneirisms. It's very nasal, even constricted. Work on the good stuff, no need to absorb his problems. If you want to "emulate" him a bit, try to match that Ih he sings on Piece, and center your voice around it on the whole song.

In my opinion, that's not necessary either and you can be more open, without compromising the song.

About dynamics, no other solution, teacher and study on technique to release the tensions that are getting in the way, that area is not high enough to require any special measure to control it. There are other areas on the song however that will need a bit of attention...

Really cool song!

[anotherreason25]

@ronws @Felipe @Phil I provided a sample of myself singing the two contrasting songs to show where I am on the matter, explaining the differences in the way the songs are sung, and in the difference in how Johnny Craig sings his part and how I am able to sing his part. Please reference that so I'll know more of what you mean. Craig has a far clearer albeit lighter mass throughout the song in full voice compared to I. Now if I were able to mock his techniques without the habits, I would have done so already, as I've spent hours combing through the song attempting various approaches. There is something eluding me about his coordinations, something I am just not grasping.

I'm not rich enough to afford any lessons, something also to keep in mind. I can self teach and anything else is out of the question if you aren't giving the lessons or imparting wisdom personally and for free.

[anotherreason25]

@phil If I were conditioned correctly (relative to his technique and his technique alone) I shouldn't have to do any modifying of vowels. His mouth is pretty well open. I should have open vowels and free voice. Theoretically.

[Jens]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg7xwsSTGnY&feature=youtu.be

I think you are doing the correct timbralsounds, but if you listen to his version.

Reaaaally focus on the flow of the singing, everything he does is in that flow, the wails everything. I belive if you nail that youll become alot more satisfied with your own attempts.

[ronws]

I fear I may have added more confusion than clarity to this.

Yeah, the guy in Shinedown is mostly belting, even if he has some similar nasality. To me, the exact range of each song is not that important but I could be wrong about that, too.

And I would only compare the two further to hopefully highlight, maybe, what your singer is doing. For example, in the Shinedown performance, he has razor sharp vowel changes. "understand" becomes ahnda st ah ee n.

Where as Craig seems to have softer vowel changes and yes, as you were saying, a lighter vocal weight. So that even if they were both singing the same note at the same time, there would be a timbral difference, of sorts.

And these are just amateur musings of mine. But even if Craig just had a lighter voice than someone else, I think he is also using light onset, light weight. Here and there, I can here him start a belt, it seems like, and then pull back. Then, again, I have not studied his sound or this song, as you have.

Truly, you are likely to have better insight into it than I would. But I don't mind trying to help figure it out. Even if it's a case of where I suggest something and you say "no, that's not it." At least I have helped to cross one more thing off the list, Sherlock Holmes style. "Once you have eliminated all the probable answers, what is left is the answer, no matter how improbable." At least, in theory.

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@ronws @Felipe @Phil I provided a sample of myself singing the two contrasting songs to show where I am on the matter, explaining the differences in the way the songs are sung, and in the difference in how Johnny Craig sings his part and how I am able to sing his part. Please reference that so I'll know more of what you mean. Craig has a far clearer albeit lighter mass throughout the song in full voice compared to I. Now if I were able to mock his techniques without the habits, I would have done so already, as I've spent hours combing through the song attempting various approaches. There is something eluding me about his coordinations, something I am just not grasping.

I'm not rich enough to afford any lessons, something also to keep in mind. I can self teach and anything else is out of the question if you aren't giving the lessons or imparting wisdom personally and for free.

another reason,

if i interpreted your last paragraph (above) incorrectly let me apologize, but the last comment you made smacks of arrogance.

something for you to keep in mind......

these teachers (and some highly skilled pro-level singers) don't have to be on this forum. they give us advice, good advice, for free. they have no obligation to answer you. you should be happy and appreciative that you have an opportunity to ask them questions.

these are a really great bunch of guys.

they were nice enough to reply, right?

[Felipe Carvalho]

Then self-teach, condition it properly in the way you mention, whatever that is, and good luck!

But, it seems that what you want is to just chit-chat about it, in which case, I rather have nothing to do with this thread . Bye!

[ronws]

these teachers (and some highly skilled pro-level singers) don't have to be on this forum.

And I am neither. My opinion and $1.60 USD will get you a Diet Coke. But yeah, I think this more of a discussion thread for which I cannot be much help, even as I maintain some interest in it.

[Robert Lunte]

@ronws @Felipe @Phil I provided a sample of myself singing the two contrasting songs to show where I am on the matter, explaining the differences in the way the songs are sung, and in the difference in how Johnny Craig sings his part and how I am able to sing his part. Please reference that so I'll know more of what you mean. Craig has a far clearer albeit lighter mass throughout the song in full voice compared to I. Now if I were able to mock his techniques without the habits, I would have done so already, as I've spent hours combing through the song attempting various approaches. There is something eluding me about his coordinations, something I am just not grasping.

I'm not rich enough to afford any lessons, something also to keep in mind. I can self teach and anything else is out of the question if you aren't giving the lessons or imparting wisdom personally and for free.

Seriously? Bro, these guys are doing you a favor. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH FELIPE... Go sit in a dark room, chasing your tail trying to sound like someone else and good luck with that... I too, am not inspired to help you after reading that...

All the noise and "teaser" content on YouTube has created a new breed of student... they not only expect you to teach them for free, but they flat out feel entitled to it and have no shame telling you that.