jrintaha Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hello all, I've been lurking this forum for some time, but registered just now. I bought the Four Pillars system a bit over a year ago, but due to time constraints (day job + starting my own company + 2 young kids etc.) haven't really gotten to properly singing until very recently. Read the book, watched the lectures, did some exercises every now and then, but no proper routine. I actually found Four Pillars via Youtube, Robert's videos just made more sense and were more scientifically sound than so many others, so that was how I made my buying decision. Super quick background: played guitar for almost 15 years, keyboards on and off for even longer (with a break of 10 years or so in between), saxophone for 2Â½ years, trumpet for 1Â½ years. I've read a lot of theory and studied every aspect of all the instruments I'm playing, so far as to usually take them apart and put 'em back together again. A lot of these things like breath support, keeping the throat open, tongue positions, controlling the larynx, and other tricks I'm already pretty familiar with from playing wind instruments as they're quite essential there too. But this very essential thing of bridging from M1 to M2, that's very new to me, and that finally brings me to my question: how low could a good spot to bridge be, since I have a bass voice? The suggested pitch of "around E4" for men is out of the question, as I seriously can't reach higher than D4 or Eb4 in M1, and even B3-C4 feel like I'm really pushing. I can go up to G5-A5 or so in M2, so that's not a problem, just the transition. Following the "resonant track" with the semi-occluded "humm", that is, trying to keep the sensation of resonation as strong as possible, not concentrating on what note I'm currently singing, just going up and down a major scale, trying to be as relaxed as possible and keep the phonation as effective as possible (that is, finding the "place" where the faintest airstream produces a stable note), I find I'm bridging at F3 or so. With an open mouth, "eh" vowel, slowly modifying to "ah", the bridging seems to happen around Bb3, which is pretty close to the highest note I can belt (D4-Eb4). And the transition is often not very clean, especially when descending. Anyone with similar problems and perhaps solutions? Has someone here coached someone with a very low voice, or better yet, knows a voice coach with a similar voice who does online lessons? I do intend to take a few with Robert too, timetables and time difference permitting, as there are a few other things I want to ask him, and I believe they can only be worked out in a private lesson. https://www.dropbox.com/s/y99ldg6g5oyfnaf/avalanche.mp3?dl=0 here's a sample of me playing & singing three verses of Leonard Cohen's Avalanche. There aren't actually any really low notes there, F2 is the lowest I think, but I wanted to show that this is the most "natural" range for me. Cheers, Jori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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