Elvis Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 First im sry for another bridging thread. Now from what i understand there are 2 bridges that needsto be built...the first one around E-G4 and the secon around A4-C5... Now my question is this...when i sing i have no problem getting to G4 and when warmed up i can go to A4 with slight to no problems...but A# is an absoluts mystery to me..i just cant seem to phonate above A..it breaks horribly... Is it possible that actually my first break is around G#-A4... Ill add a zakk wylde cover that runs up to G4 for you to listen...NOTE that that isnt my best effort and those G's are not ussually that shaky...https://app.box.com/s/gga5ptl0l21ls04huapyhxz7amrhs0t1 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 20, 2015 Administrator Share Posted January 20, 2015 Issues around A4 responding with instability and constriction are common for most people. What you are experiencing is not unique, it is part of the experience of vocal training and getting to know your voice better and ... how the singing voice works. There are many factors that can contribute to a problem with A4, but the first place I would look at is the acoustics. If the singing vowel is tuned properly (formant), then the formant will shift and resonant energy will escape the area that aggravates the constrictors and move to a more favorable position, namely, something more palette oriented. This is not the only solution, but it is probably the best approach for those that are learning how to bridge at A4 as beginners. Cutting to the chase, shade your formant/vowel tunings to more IPA ae/a (cat) and that should help you a lot in getting your resonation to the forward palette and bridge in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Uhhh ty Robert...thats very helpful..ill try it first thing tomorrow Also looking forward to getting 4 pillars and starting the training 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 20, 2015 Administrator Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hey Elvis, glad that was helpful. I could go on and on about different things that can help or may be attributing to your A4 issues... many people could on this forum, but a real practical "tip"... would be to try that first. I think you will find that the constriction will release and you will get to the A4. It will still need work... coloring from the larynx dampening and from other singing vowels that blend/chemistry with the IPA ae/a (cat), but that is a good start to at least get you out of the mud. It would be a great pleasure to be your coach and guide you through "The Four Pillars of Singing" program. When you are ready to get started, I recommend the "New Student Package"... you save $152... its a great value. You get the entire "Pillars" program + 3 private hours with me. Let me know if you have any questions about that or your singing... and welcome to the TMV World Forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 As Rob said, "flattening" the vowel is important to go higher. Also, keep the mass light and try to lighten as you ascend. You'd don't need that much mass to go higher, it just introduces unnecessary constriction. Keep at it and you'll get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarom Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have found the notes around A4 to c5 some of the hardest notes to sing. sometimes even harder then the 1st bridge. what works for me the best is trying to keep the resonance on the roof of my mouth and keeping control of my larynx by adding necessary twang. I also like to experiment with vowels 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 A4 and C5 are much harder for beginners only if they have a tendency to pull chest which most males do . so working on low volume and allowing the voice to break before the a4 will help alot with this. you need to feel the release of the headvoice and then begin to allow the power support closure etc to get better with time. Some guys grasp this easier than others. im always here to help so please contact me.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted January 21, 2015 Administrator Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have found the notes around A4 to c5 some of the hardest notes to sing. sometimes even harder then the 1st bridge. what works for me the best is trying to keep the resonance on the roof of my mouth and keeping control of my larynx by adding necessary twang. I also like to experiment with vowels Good response Jarom, I have to agree. Send the resonant energy forward, to the roof of the hard palette, (provided that you have the right vowels) and make adjustments on the compression. For some people, this is a fairly benign movement, they are not aware of it, their bodies respond nicely to it, for others.. you have to be aware of it and practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I would also add that having good breath support is important as you ascend. I found that when I was trying to light the mass, I was also lessening the amount of abdominal contraction that I had for breath support, so I kept losing my fold compression. Lighten the mass in the vocal tract, but keep the tenseness in the abs to get sub-glottal compression and maintain fold closure.You get a good balance of twang (super-glottal) and breath support (sub-glottal) compression so you don't have to rely to heavily on one or the other, which I think helps with constriction a well. There was a video of Kevin Richards explaining that in this light configuration, there isn't much going on in the throat as far as muscle contractions are concerned: the "action" is in the abs/stomach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks for advices guys...this helped a little..i feel alot more stable on A4 with these tips... Need to work on my basics first cuz i dont have any training at all and youtube videos are not exactly the best when it comes to singing (too much contradiction between 'teachers') so im looking forward to getting 4 pilars and to start working 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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