I am lost

[rich2k4]

i've been vocalizing seriously for the last 3 months. mostly with singing success exercises. While i managed to remove some weight from my voice as i went higher, i'm still not where i want to be. I have determined that i need guidance, and need to take some skype lessons.

the problem is, i'm not sure whether to take skype lessons from singing success associates, or from here. I'm not sure which is the best route to get me to where i want to be. I figure if i have put so much time into SS already, that maybe i should stick with it.

Keep in mind that i have no desire to sing a rock/metal style. here are some youtube videos demonstrating the type of singing that i want to be able to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9SgDoypXcI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7EsC1TMzrA

would either method be able to get me to where i want to be? which is better suited for this type of style of singing?

finally here are some clips of me singing. Do i have the potential to be able to get to the level of the videos i posted? or is my voice to deep for these styles?

http://www.box.net/shared/u8zehbfedx

http://www.box.net/shared/dg1koumr6y

http://www.box.net/shared/ccge3v9rzd

[analog]

Rich,

You can certainly learn how to sing with the same "set-up" that they're using. If you have the funds, why not stick with SS(you already have the foundation.) I would recommend sticking to ONE METHOD for a good amount of time(at least in the beginning.) IMO...based on your recordings, there's a LOT of "basic" improvement that you should experience. It may take several lessons, but I imagine you'll be amazed.

Good luck!

[Steven Fraser]

i've been vocalizing seriously for the last 3 months. mostly with singing success exercises. While i managed to remove some weight from my voice as i went higher, i'm still not where i want to be. I have determined that i need guidance, and need to take some skype lessons.

rich2k4: In order of importance to you, what are the 5 things that you want to change first? We will work from there.

[keoladonaghy]

Rich, I did SS also, and still use some of their exercises. I also took several Skype lessons from one of Brett's associates, Jesse Nemitz. I realized that the combination of the two was necessary for success. I didn't know enough to be able to diagnose my issues, and found that I was doing some exercises wrong, and it prevented me from progressing the way I could. Nearly every lesson I did with Jesse resulted in immediate improvement.

Last December Robert Lunte made an offer to give everyone who bought his Four Pillars system for a period of time a free Skype lesson. I took one and was hooked. Jesse was great, but he was fairly laid back (though still enthusiastic and passionate), whereas Robert is a bit more aggressive and in your face. I kind of liked that, he pushes me harder that I might myself, expects me to "get it" which makes me work, and I see the results. Both were very good with diagnosing problems.

Even though TVS looks like it may be made for more aggressive and edgier styles than you (and I also) want to achieve, the pedagogy and techniques Robert teaches are applicable to any style. I like the sound that Robert is helping me get to, with just enough edge to make it interesting.

I don't think you can go wrong either way, or perhaps with someone else. Jesse and Robert have been the only folks I've used. But getting feedback from someone who can help you diagnose issues in invaluable, IMHO.

[ronws]

Keo, you raise a good point. Even though I like the hard rock and heavy metal genre and there are techniques here for creating distortion, etc., I find myself searching for more pure tones. Is that ironic or is that the stuff talked about here will help you regardless of genre? I think, the latter.