Jarom Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I though this was a really great artical by ken about singing high notes http://kentamplinvocalacademy.com/how-to-sing-high-notes-10-tips/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Nice. The one thing Ken is saying here is even when the support is on, and the tension is managed you still have to go through an "I suck" stage because certain notes you desire will be just out of reach, you just don't have the ability, the skill and finesse at that point. Embrace that temporary inability! Be willing to do your scales always trying to kiss the note (as he says) and before you know it (I have found) you achieve the fold stretch and the strength to hold the adduction while you manage the breath pressure. Also realize it may come one semitone at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Getting higher and higher notes isn't one semitone at a time it's really taking care not to pull in the bridge area. Once you nail that, the higher notes will be there (you connected the lower to the higher). But if you pull strain push each note thinking you are going to get higher and higher you just end up right back where you started. Not balanced and wondering why some days it's there some days not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Could you explain that more Daniel? If we put a measurement to it, I find mine have been a semitone at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 you don't build one note at a time once you can get around the passagio and manage it the upper notes are easier. if you are someone that just pushes through the passagio then you will have a ceiling .this is pretty elementary bob... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 This applies to every voice? I'm happy that your notes above the passaggio are easy for you Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etekiller Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 you don't build one note at a time once you can get around the passagio and manage it the upper notes are easier. if you are someone that just pushes through the passagio then you will have a ceiling .this is pretty elementary bob... Yeah, I agree totally. I wasn't able to reach some high notes until I realized how to switch the resonance into a different resonator. All high notes were really easy to hit (still are ugly, because I need to develop coordination for that, but hitting them was pretty easy). Once you go through that breaking point it's like making a hole in a water plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 this applies to every voice its coordination/technique. but most want to move past to fast so they keep shouting thinking its gonna get better under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Ive found the stretching up a semitone at a time thing should be only used as an auxiliary exercise for when you need a heavy chest voice workout but for learning to sing balanced you should put your first priority on getting above the passagio smoothly and power is second priority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m.i.r. Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 you don't build one note at a time once you can get around the passagio and manage it the upper notes are easier. if you are someone that just pushes through the passagio then you will have a ceiling .this is pretty elementary bob... Always in for the great comments. Your views on balance are dead on and not embraced by a whole lot yet, however I believe they will come around. Its kinda like going to the second or third floor, once you have climbed the stairs you are on that floor. No point in trying to knock your way through the floor itself ha ha, just take the stairs man. Once balance is achieved nothing will really stand out..there wont be support or closure. They just work together as one, and you just have notes and sound. I think the bodies desire to find homeostasis should not be over looked, because it is a huge desire of the body. The way people can be functioning alcoholics, yet the non drinker drinks too much and it knocks them out for 2 days. Or at the gym, if I do the same exercises with the same amount of reps and sets. I will eventually stop gaining(been there before when younger, wasted so much time). However, always alternating sets, workouts and everything keeps the gaining happening. Body never has time to build its center. However, in singing you want homeostasis. Because then it becomes auto pilot as well as no unusual wear and tear on any of the vocal mechanism. So get out of the way, the body knows what it wants, let it do it. Then however you sound will be YOU, not how you think YOU should sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 @owen power is achieved by resonance and formant shifts. not by pushing chest voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I hear what everyone is saying, but for me I found myself improving one semitone at time. I'd do my scales and as time went on I'd feel more slots (notes) opening up to me. B4 was like I fell into the note. I'm just sharing my sensations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasenW Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Getting higher and higher notes isn't one semitone at a time it's really taking care not to pull in the bridge area. Once you nail that, the higher notes will be there (you connected the lower to the higher). But if you pull strain push each note thinking you are going to get higher and higher you just end up right back where you started. Not balanced and wondering why some days it's there some days not Can you elaborate on what the bridge area is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Can you elaborate on what the bridge area is? Yes, it's the area if the bridge. Basically, the transition between the kind of modal you normally speak in and the less modal function of your upper ntes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneetapp Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hi guys, great discussion, as always. Based on my progress I have to agree with Daniel on this. I used to yell just to reach (sort of) G4-G#4, and A4 was out of the question, but after my breakthrough I could sing up to D5. In the beginning those notes were not pleasant or consistent, but with time and practice, they became much better. And I notice that when I'm vocalizing doing pitch-matching or scales, even though I have reached G5, I still cannot sing those notes in a song, because I lose cord closure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hey gneetap thanks for agreeing but I did not make this stuff up I just learned it and now I teach it.😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasenW Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yes, it's the area if the bridge. Basically, the transition between the kind of modal you normally speak in and the less modal function of your upper ntes. Gotcha, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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