Jeremy Mohler Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 After just recently discovering my head voice I complained about only being able to achieve whisper volume sounds. All of sudden I am finding myself able to grow the resonance in my connected head register a bit but it's a very new feeling and not yet free or really applicable. I will post a clip and I ask if anyone can relate to this sound from their own training of head voice + is this newly discovered sound the foundation for a strong mix? disclaimer: volume is quite loud so keep your headphones down: http://picosong.com/L24V/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKu Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I genuinely don't know man. the thing about voice is a lot times you can isolate an ingredient. I don't think I've heard this one isolated before. It reminds me most of the sound my cat would make when it was about to puke. whoaaa whoaaa. Anyway, I most easily relate to Daniel Formica's concept of head voice. Which basically starts off as a hooty thing: I've described lightness and heaviness in terms of white, black, and gray awhile before I heard it, but he sounds like he has a great amount of control over this blending. Anyway, as far as I know, the mix voice is a twangy, resonant, plaintive sound. Your sound is maybe plaintive? Like moaning, kind of, like people do when they have stomach ache... Or when cat needs to get outside fast. So maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yes the louder thing is mixed voice it's just not balanced yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I genuinely don't know man. the thing about voice is a lot times you can isolate an ingredient. I don't think I've heard this one isolated before. It reminds me most of the sound my cat would make when it was about to puke. whoaaa whoaaa. Anyway, I most easily relate to Daniel Formica's concept of head voice. Which basically starts off as a hooty thing: I've described lightness and heaviness in terms of white, black, and gray awhile before I heard it, but he sounds like he has a great amount of control over this blending. Anyway, as far as I know, the mix voice is a twangy, resonant, plaintive sound. Your sound is maybe plaintive? Like moaning, kind of, like people do when they have stomach ache... Or when cat needs to get outside fast. So maybe. Haha, thanks man. Made me laugh. I definitely hear the plaintive sound you refer to. CVT would call this "curbing like neutral" but I really don't care for CVT anymore. edit: by the way, I love Daniel, he is a great teacher with an awesome voice. I will definitely check this video out again. Yes the louder thing is mixed voice it's just not balanced yet. In other words, keep working with that sound and it probably will balance if approached carefully and slowly? Thanks for your feedback, hope I'm on the right track with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 What Owen said. And give it time. Like Daniel said, you are going to falter at first. Baby steps. Eventually, you walk. Then, run. But I think you are on a good path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 What Owen said. And give it time. Like Daniel said, you are going to falter at first. Baby steps. Eventually, you walk. Then, run. But I think you are on a good path. Thanks brother, really appreciate it. That resonates with me for sure. Patience is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 In other words, keep working with that sound and it probably will balance if approached carefully and slowly? Thanks for your feedback, hope I'm on the right track with this. Carefully. Not necessarily slowly - don't go so slow that you lose the coordination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Carefully. Not necessarily slowly - don't go so slow that you lose the coordination If by that you mean "don't pace yourself in practicing it so little that you lose the sensation" than there is no worry there. I have had head voice slides amongst other things taking up at least 50% of my practice sessions for awhile now hoping to balance out my voice more. Sometimes I get discouraged though by practicing so quietly all the time. I stop and wonder, "Is this really going to turn into a sound that I can crescendo to be quite powerful?" but from what I gather here, that the only way to build a strong mix (if you currently can only do chest until you break) is start off as quiet as you have to in connected head voice and just keep at it. Hopefully I am correct in thinking this. Thanks for all of the help so far, really appreciate it. edit: well, after seeing Owen's comment on the break thread I can see that I am quite mistaken here. I guess what my "mixed voice" sound here actually consist of is a head voice with a bit of twang. The sensation of that sound definitely feels completely different from my chest voice. But bringing my pure chest up to those notes starts to strain so much that I don't typically spend a lot of time playing with that area. I hope that this stuff just comes in time; I truly do work my ass off on singing and am quite happy with my voice in the range I do have. This science of getting past your break is just crazy though. LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just a friendly warning Jeremy. Don't get too caught up in this "light and right" approach. That's just one way. You still need to do louder scales that instigate growth and development. You still need to workout the voice! It's perfectly okay to experience strain at times, or experience some struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 take your time the coordination will come faster if you don't rush it looking for a sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just a friendly warning Jeremy. Don't get too caught up in this "light and right" approach. That's just one way. You still need to do louder scales that instigate growth and development. You still need to workout the voice! It's perfectly okay to experience strain at times, or experience some struggle. Thanks for the friendly reminder, I definitely don't plan on keeping my voice down to light levels all the time. I make sure to keep the majority of my practice loud and resonant singing as to not lose any power in the range I do have. take your time the coordination will come faster if you don't rush it looking for a sound It's so cool to hear from you; I love your videos man. Thanks for taking the time to make those things. Also, your advice is well noted of course. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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