Ian S Hulett Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 So, I know I have the potential to reach those higher notes. My biggest anchor is the struggle with straining. I cannot stop straining to save my life. No matter what I search for online as far as how to reach my head voice is concerned, everybody says, use the piano or some other instrument and keep going higher on the notes until you reach your head voice. What these coaches don't realize, and I can't tell them this because I have no way to, is it's not a matter of finding my head voice or trying to reach those notes, it's a matter of trying to get my head voice to take over for my chest voice so that I can stop straining, and I cannot do that for some reason. I CAN reach those higher notes, even without falsetto, however I'm only reaching those notes with my chest voice. I don't know what to do to switch from my chest voice to my head voice. Nothing is helpful, and I have no way to get a job to afford a coach. Are there any other options for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarom Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Get a coach..... a job isn't the only way to get money.....be an entrepreneur... not having the money is not an excuse. Do you have Pillars? if so, lift up pull back is the single greatest exercise for bridging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 3, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 3, 2015 Get a coach..... a job isn't the only way to get money.....be an entrepreneur... not having the money is not an excuse. Do you have Pillars? if so, lift up pull back is the single greatest exercise for bridging. Jarom, I like this post a lot. Not just because you give "The Four Pillars of Singing" a shout out... thats nice, thank you... and I totally agree with your recommendation. Lift Up / Pull Back is a good idea for Ian... but beyond that... I couldn't agree with you more. This sounds like, "... I want it, I am entitled to it because I know I can do it, but... I'm not willing to find a job or find a way to get a training program that has the answers and content I need to actually resolve this problem, I want you guys on the forum to give me a free tip". Ian, I am sorry if that seems a bit terse, but I see this ALL the time, with all due respect, especially with Millennium generation, younger people. This unique sense of, "... I want it, but I want someone to give it to me... and I want it to be relatively easy. I'm not willing to make any hard sacrifices to get there"... attitude. Ian, thats not the way it works. You have searching for free teaser content on YouTube, right? Your hoping that teaser content on YouTube will show you the way... very unlikely. Watching teaser content on YouTube is not training. Its watching videos on YouTube... apart from the fact that a lot of that content is really just a marketing piece to pique your interest, they rarely go into any depth required to make serious gains. I know, I publish those kinds of videos. Oh, you may get an idea or two that seems to be helpful, but it isn't training and you will never have lasting, real gains until you decide that your going to put the time and money if necessary into training. My program is $197 and it provides for you a complete explanation of how the voice works and for sure... how to bridge your registers and sing in your head voice. Singing in your head voice and training content to learn how to do that is probably one of the things I am best at. You will get solo piano workout scales, lecture videos that explain things, written directions on how to train, and on and on... its all in there. If you can't find a way to get $197 so that you can learn to sing better and resolve your problem, then yo may not be cut out for this. You have to make in investment in time, money and in yourself to learn how to sing in your head voice. "You have no way to find a job".... why? Im very curious to know why you have "no way to find a job"? What is preventing you from finding a job or doing some yard work for the neighbors next door, for example to get $200 so you can chase your dream? Are you really saying, "I'm not willing to get a job"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Robert has a good point. When I was 18, I had saved up money from allowance and mowing lawns. My step-grandparents had promised to get me the guitar and amp I wanted when I improved my grades in school. I did so, exceeding the levels they set for me. And they refused to honor their promise to me. So, I spent all my money and got a Memphis Les Paul (copy), a Marlboro 132A practice amp, and an MXR 10-band graphic equalizer (stomp box.) Point being, when you have a desire, you find a way. And this was back in the day when there was no youtube, public internet, and my TI 99 - 4a computer that they did get me was "state of the art." That one, you had to program in BASIC by hand and save your program on a cassette deck. Granted, you may not have the money now but you could be inventive in finding a way to get a job or make money that is not illegal. Somehow, you either have a computer or a smartphone in order to even get on line and post in this forum. That cost someone some money, somewhere. Trust me, nothing is free. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKu Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Side stepping the money thing.... Not being able to hit high notes isn't really a health issue. I read 'help, can't stop straining' and thought a totally different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 So, I know I have the potential to reach those higher notes. My biggest anchor is the struggle with straining. I cannot stop straining to save my life. No matter what I search for online as far as how to reach my head voice is concerned, everybody says, use the piano or some other instrument and keep going higher on the notes until you reach your head voice. What these coaches don't realize, and I can't tell them this because I have no way to, is it's not a matter of finding my head voice or trying to reach those notes, it's a matter of trying to get my head voice to take over for my chest voice so that I can stop straining, and I cannot do that for some reason. I CAN reach those higher notes, even without falsetto, however I'm only reaching those notes with my chest voice. I don't know what to do to switch from my chest voice to my head voice. Nothing is helpful, and I have no way to get a job to afford a coach. Are there any other options for me? You lazy, lazy (*auto edit*). To dismiss all the free information as a whole is just lazy. "Youtube videos aren't helpful." Really? All billion of them? How To Sing High Notes Without Straining: "> That helped me a long time ago. Also, check out everything by daniel formica and robert lunte. Those are my freebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Dont know if it helps you but get used to falsetto...i strained like a horse and lift up pull back helped me tons...the moment you feel you are gonna strain (around d4 - e4 ussually) start connecting without a break into your falsetto and then try adding a bit mass on the note you are going for, kinda like mesa di voce...i did that for only 2-3 days and i eliminated strain completely to the point where i can even shout as i did before but without strain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 11, 2015 Dont know if it helps you but get used to falsetto...i strained like a horse and lift up pull back helped me tons...the moment you feel you are gonna strain (around d4 - e4 ussually) start connecting without a break into your falsetto and then try adding a bit mass on the note you are going for, kinda like mesa di voce...i did that for only 2-3 days and i eliminated strain completely to the point where i can even shout as i did before but without strain. Yes. LUPB is an interim technique that teaches the body a few important lessons. - shut down the constrictors, stop pushing. - "this is where my vocal break is". - Timing to bridge... to get a nice bridge, timing is also important. - It is the beginning of learning how to command and control the glottis, beyond simple speech mode requirements. - It introduces you to your head voice for those people that seriously... have never or rarely been there. - It unveils an important "ah ha" moment... so this is my head voice and this is what needs to be built and coordinated. Which is when you would begin to use the Messa di Voce Onset in "The Four Pillars of Singing" training program... (good call Elvis... and I don't think you have "Pillars" yet do you?) Other great TVS onsets will also help... Quack & Release... provided that you follow the work flow in the book, Track & Release... great for anything and everything... Wind & Release... great for engaging respiration and some Bernoulli physics... and the big daddy that pushes you over the edge of full musculature engagement, Attack & Release... for belting. Its all there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 11, 2015 To dismiss all the free information as a whole is just lazy. "Youtube videos aren't helpful." Really? All billion of them? I did not suggest that people dismiss all free content. There are ideas you can learn from some free content... provided its with the right coach. Regarding the video above... honestly, the only thing it successfully explains is, what he doesn't understand about the voice, or how he is not very capable of explaining what he is trying to explain. I know what he is trying to explain, but if you don't have the real knowledge and understanding of the topic your talking about, the result is... "circle talk". For my standards as a voice coach, it simply is not impressive at all... but thats another discussion for another day... and you write this as a quote..., "YouTube videos aren't helpful"... who are you quoting? I'm curious, because I hope your not pretending to quote me, that was never anything I said? We coaches get communications too frequently from people that don't understand that this is about training and its going to take time and commitment and practice. They seek an "easy" way that doesn't require a lot of work or investment. Two things: I want it now and easy perspective on things is never going to get anyone significant changes in their voice. There is no "quick easy free tip"... or if you feel you found a few, it still is not going to make you a great singer, until you practice and train with REAL content and learn how the voice works!! I don't work for free. Everything isn't for free and people are not entitled to everything being "easy" and "free". I grew up on a farm in Idaho... if I wanted something that my parents could not immediately kick in for, I worked for the money to get it. I mowed lawns, built fences, hauled dirt and rock around in a wheel barrel, worked at a Seed & Feed store for a while... to get what I wanted. And as an adult, that is still what I do. To say, " I don't have a way to work" is painfully unconvincing. Millennials, generally speaking (people that were born after 2000 or entered the work force after 2000)... feel that they are entitled to what they want, without having to work for it. It is the byproduct of our "everyone gets a trophy" society. In the end, it is the Millennials that will struggle... because the world never has and never will work that way. There is no xbox or iphone button to push to become a great singer... Frankly, I feel sorry for them... they really are at a disadvantage. LOL! "Siri how to fix a bicycle? ... Call my Dad"... at the end... funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Robert im getting my paycheck in a day or two max and im getting 4Pillars as soon as the paycheck lands ) so excited to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 11, 2015 Robert im getting my paycheck in a day or two max and im getting 4Pillars as soon as the paycheck lands ) so excited to start Ok, cool... with all your hard work on this forum, Im excited to help you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKu Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Edit: I'm just gonna nip this post. I have a habit of being very honest online about sensitive issues. I'm trying to break the habit of revealing too much personal information in random places. I think anonymity is valuable as this isn't face to face conversation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 You need to release into head voice. As Robert said, this is an "ah ha" moment which I just found out myself fairly recently. I thought I was releasing into head voice properly, but it turns out I was belting/pulling M1... completely fine and healthy (sounds good too), but I wasn't working the light configuration. Buzzing exercises help, but you have to do them correctly. Release into the head voice, don't unhealthily pull chest voice, otherwise you will strain. SLS has the "squeaky door hinge" and other buzzing exercises. TVS has "resonant tracking". Getting the feeling of releasing is a significant step. Then you move on from there. Eventually when you get to bridging, lift up pull back is great for the tough passagio area. Even if you can only do the 5th octave head tones at first, keep practising, especially E4-G4. But you have to practice, whenever and wherever you can. Sing songs in the car and do exercises. The sensations/vibrations you get from proper singing technique is not mistakable. You'll know when you're doing it right, be it a belting or "heady" configuration. No tension/soreness in the throat, with a bright and resonant ring that "cuts" (I like to say it sounds "sharp"). Don't strain. Start slowly and build the voice. Practising properly is the only way to get better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 12, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 12, 2015 You need to release into head voice. As Robert said, this is an "ah ha" moment which I just found out myself fairly recently. I thought I was releasing into head voice properly, but it turns out I was belting/pulling M1... completely fine and healthy (sounds good too), but I wasn't working the light configuration. Buzzing exercises help, but you have to do them correctly. Release into the head voice, don't unhealthily pull chest voice, otherwise you will strain. SLS has the "squeaky door hinge" and other buzzing exercises. TVS has "resonant tracking". Getting the feeling of releasing is a significant step. Then you move on from there. Eventually when you get to bridging, lift up pull back is great for the tough passagio area. Even if you can only do the 5th octave head tones at first, keep practising, especially E4-G4. But you have to practice, whenever and wherever you can. Sing songs in the car and do exercises. The sensations/vibrations you get from proper singing technique is not mistakable. You'll know when you're doing it right, be it a belting or "heady" configuration. No tension/soreness in the throat, with a bright and resonant ring that "cuts" (I like to say it sounds "sharp"). Don't strain. Start slowly and build the voice. Practising properly is the only way to get better. Regarding "releasing" and freeing the voice... "Lift Up / Pull Back"... and glottal compression control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I did not suggest that people dismiss all free content. There are ideas you can learn from some free content... provided its with the right coach. Regarding the video above... honestly, the only thing it successfully explains is, what he doesn't understand about the voice, or how he is not very capable of explaining what he is trying to explain. I know what he is trying to explain, but if you don't have the real knowledge and understanding of the topic your talking about, the result is... "circle talk". For my standards as a voice coach, it simply is not impressive at all... but thats another discussion for another day... and you write this as a quote..., "YouTube videos aren't helpful"... who are you quoting? I'm curious, because I hope your not pretending to quote me, that was never anything I said? I quoted the person I quoted in the comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakasaheibam Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 hi, Ian S Hulett during my research on medicine and treatment system of an ancient civilization i came across a miraculous medicine that heal vocal strain .As a part of the research project . a vocal strained folk singer was healed of the strain on the same day of her live performance in few hours time . less than 7hrs. ( ( and was healed on stage which was video recorded live ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted June 2, 2015 Administrator Share Posted June 2, 2015 hi, Ian S Hulett during my research on medicine and treatment system of an ancient civilization i came across a miraculous medicine that heal vocal strain .As a part of the research project . a vocal strained folk singer was healed of the strain on the same day of her live performance in few hours time . less than 7hrs. ( ( and was healed on stage which was video recorded live ) "Praka"... Sounds fascinating... but:1). Please upload a picture to your profile and...2). You don't provide any link or anything that we can see in regards to this "miracle" solution your describing...?3). You refer to "research"? What research are you referring to? Can you describe the nature of this "research"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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