Danielformica Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Went to a Voice Conference this weekend at Pepperdine University.http://www.voicedoctorla.com/vocalmasterclass/ check out the different sessions we had during the day. LIVE VIDEO STROBOSCOPY KARAOKE And although I realized I could have never went to college, I do realize that after sitting down and discussing the voice with different Otolaryngologists, Voice Therapists and other vocal coaches and specialists I do realize that I know an awful lot about the voice and how to teach it properly. We did lots of live scoping of the vocal cords and what is going on when someone is hoarse, sick, has polyps, nodules ETC.. It was nice to solidify a lot of the concepts and practice I teach are spot on. If you know anyone curious about singing or want to better your singing please contact me. And then it was straight to work at The old Canyon club!!.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 15, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 15, 2015 Cool Daniel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Pretty Cool Daniel, Looks like a lot of subjects were covered. I am curious to know if the manual manipulation of the larynx was for relaxing the extrinsic muscles or for repositioning the larynx like a chiropractor would reposition bone structure when things are out of alignment. Of course the Karaoke stroboscope thing would be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 its mainly for extrinsic muscles. you can't really massage the tiny intrinsic muscles but by relaxing the big ones around it, it reduces the tension, therefore giving you some relief and helping with stamina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Would be cool to read some more in depth or see some example videos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 what do you want to know just ask me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDEW Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 its mainly for extrinsic muscles. you can't really massage the tiny intrinsic muscles but by relaxing the big ones around it, it reduces the tension, therefore giving you some relief and helping with stamina Thanks Daniel, I wasn't thinking about internal muscles but perhaps external muscles pulling the larynx to one side or another causing an imbalance like a curve in the spine causing someone to walk sideways or limp when the legs themselves are fine. So the manual manipulation is just for relaxing the extrinsic muscles. not readjusting anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 Just like that, pulling on the larynx and creating tension and imbalance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hey Dan, what happens to the vocal folds when you are really sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 What we noticed was lots of different kinds of mucous around the cords, back of throat, different pools and pockets, redness and swelling of arytenoids, the cords almost always are fine it's the problems around the cords. If you ever wanna see what viral laryngitis and acid reflux looks looks like i scoped mine when I had it bad and took a pic. Very clear pic let me know 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Is a sore throat the result of muscle fatigue? Always wondered. After I've drank alcohol the next day my voice just feels rusty, nothing will help me sing. Guess they get dried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 sore throat depends on if its viral,bacterial or muscle fatigue.. just stay hydrated and prop your head and back up so you don't get reflux from the alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 16, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hey Dan, still cool... would love to see any of those pictures if you don't mind sharing. Your comment about the vocal folds not being particularly bothered is interesting... I wonder if that is why, sometimes when your sick, you think your voice will not respond well, but it actually does. This has been my assumption. If the ailment is not impacting the mechanism for singing too much, you should be able to still sing even if you feel crummy... thats been my experience through the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hey Dan, still cool... would love to see any of those pictures if you don't mind sharing. Your comment about the vocal folds not being particularly bothered is interesting... I wonder if that is why, sometimes when your sick, you think your voice will not respond well, but it actually does. This has been my assumption. If the ailment is not impacting the mechanism for singing too much, you should be able to still sing even if you feel crummy... thats been my experience through the years. Interesting point...i was sick a month ago and i actualy sang some higher notes easier as if my body wad to weak to strain..i know it sounds silly but i really felt that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted March 16, 2015 Administrator Share Posted March 16, 2015 Interesting point...i was sick a month ago and i actualy sang some higher notes easier as if my body wad to weak to strain..i know it sounds silly but i really felt that way I can't confirm this, but sometimes an ailment MAY... actually work in your favor... perhaps the vocal folds can compress better because the are swelling or other surprising benefits of having your vocal system changed around like this... its only speculation, but reports of singing better or more easier when your sick is very common. If an ailment can make the vocal system not work as well, then should we assume that in certain cases, it also wouldn't make it respond better... just as a fluke? It is worth pondering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 They wouldn't let us film the singers there because its personal property but you can see different cords on dr. guptas website and ill show you my cords but i had viral laryngitis so they are red and looks like they got a yeast infection;) the problem with swollen cords from swelling is the edges do not vibrate nicely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I always feel more connection and presence when I have a cold. Like there's more cord closure if that makes sense. I can lean in more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Korzec Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 What we noticed was lots of different kinds of mucous around the cords, back of throat, different pools and pockets, redness and swelling of arytenoids, the cords almost always are fine it's the problems around the cords. If you ever wanna see what viral laryngitis and acid reflux looks looks like i scoped mine when I had it bad and took a pic. Very clear pic let me know Thank you for answering. That is interesting. I've been sick for the past week and half that's why I asked. My voice has gone through a lot of funky changes and I'm just rolling with it, resting a lot, not pushing too hard to sing like I'm not sick. Sometimes I've been sick and felt no change in my singing or like Elvis said sometimes something clicks and it's even a little better or at least eye opening, especially if the symptoms are up high like pharyngitis or sinus issues. But anything with symptoms affecting the larynx throws me off really bad. My whole range drops and the money notes are the last thing to come back. If anybody knows how to sing through that and get through a gig like a pro lemme know As far as I know now you just have to focus on healing and change your material to suit the limits of your sick voice I would like to see that pic, feel free to message or email me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 owen im always around to help you out ill even send you my ugly cords during laryngitis just skype me. i have made a living on gigging so i have had to sing through many gigs sick, hoarse no sleep you name it never was able to change material or keys just have to do it with a proper warm up its gonna be there unless its a really bad pathology. when you say pushing to hard i would like to hear this. skype me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Owen, the one thing experience has taught me is when you are sick (except in the case of laryngitis when you should not sing period) and you have to perform, take a longer time to warm up and it will take a longer time to warm up your voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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