ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hello everyone I'm ShySoprano and I'm happy to join this forum! I've seen it a couple of times before and I can tell people on here are musicians who know what they're talking about so I definitely wanted to go on here and ask some questions, get more educated about music, etc. I use another forum that has the exact same set-up as this so this is pretty easy...for now. I'm a soprano. I don't know what kind specifically, but it's definitely something lyric, not dramatic. If it helps, I'm a freshman and I sing soprano 1 in the all-girls choir. I know a lot of music technique and a lot of things about the soprano voice, but I don't know how to apply it. If it's okay, I'd like to ask a few questions about technique and vocal ability. Hopefully someone can answer at least one of them, though it's okay if no one wants to. Just so you know, I have the tendency to write essays on these forums... 1) The lowest note I can sing naturally is the E-flat below Middle C (Eb3) and the highest note I can sing is the A above High C (A6). I have to do a lot of warm-ups like octave jumps to hit that A though. The highest note I can hit without warming up is E6. I don't have a strong/fixed mixed register because I'm not formally trained but I have sung there once before unintentionally. The highest note I can sing in my chest voice is C5, but my voice normally starts to change at F4. My first question is a bit of a stupid one. For someone who has very little technical training other than choir, does this sound good or impressive? Or is it average? Below average? 2) The head voice is supposed to be the soprano's strength. I just discovered and started singing in my head voice in 8th grade because my choir teacher back then wanted me to sing soprano and I obviously couldn't sing everything in chest. I've definitely gotten better and I sing in actual head voice, not falsetto like I would sometimes. Like I said, I'm one of the higher sopranos in choir now. Problem is, I run out of breath so quickly. I can hold long notes in my chest and lower head voice. But once I get way up there, I struggle so much with my breath control. We're singing "Hallelujah" and theres a part where the sopranos start holding notes for 8-10 beats while the notes get higher and I always die on that part. What's wrong? And how do I fix it? 3) How do I strengthen my head voice? Mine is really light but it's kind of weak compared to other girls' and it's too feathery. I'd also like to know how to get a natural vibrato. I know you can't force it or apply it consciously to come because that leads to vocal damage, it's supposed to come naturally. 4) How do I get better mixed notes? When I mixed registers that one time I talked about, it sounded like I was in chest but it was lighter, almost going into head. I felt vibrations more in my head than in my chest and you're supposed to feel them in both (or in your nose?). Is the mixed voice supposed to have more chest, more head, a perfect 50/50 amount? Any more info on this would be great! 5) Last one, I swear. I know the proper singing technique. I know how to breathe correctly, I know how to get rid of tension, all the different parts of the voice, how to sing with strain, etc. I just can't apply them all naturally. I know I need actual vocal lessons, and trust me, I'd love to get them. But my family's going through a lot right now, so it's not a priority at all. I'll have to wait until I'm older most likely. I'll try to keep practicing on my own as much as I can. I still have a lot of problems but maybe I can work through them? Does anyone have more input on this? I don't want to teach myself the wrong habits and damage my voice. I try to do exercises I've learned before from YouTube or my choir teachers. Okay that's it! I wrote a lot I know...I'm sorry to anyone who doesn't like reading lots of paragraphs. Don't feel forced to answer any of the questions, but I would appreciate it if someone did. Thanks everyone! I hope I can make some great friends and learn a lot of great stuff Happy Spring â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸ **sorry about the editing, it if shows up. I had to fix something because I gave you false info. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ill tell you what i learned but im also a begginer so ill gove you only technical info. I can already see that MIXED VOICE is confusing you. There is no such thing as mixing 2 resonances and there is no blend or percentages. In a more classical way the term mixed voice is described as covering. In other words (simplified) using a right vowel to manipulate the formant or the resonant energy to produce desired sound. Also i can produce a C6 but i can only sing up to A4. You get what im saying? U need to post a sample of your voice so people can hear u and then evaluate you. Also your information is vast but kinda ambiguos at least to me. I dont know what are you trying to achieve? Singing better in choir in a classical mannerr or a more comlntemporary vocals. Also with girls its kinda tough to know if you are using "reinforced falsetto" or an atual head voice. And this can be atributed on your lack of avility to hold notes longer. Falsetto is alot more windy and you can blow out the air very fast. Like i said im begginer also and people here need something more than words to evaluate you properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 I don't understand what you meant with the mixed register? Everyone I've ever asked/heard has said you blend the chest and head registers. I know the difference between falsetto and head voice. In head voice, you feel vibrations in your head and it sounds stronger. Falsetto is more an "artificial voice" it doesn't sound as strong or reasonant. My choir teacher says it's not healthy for girls to sing in falsetto, which I don't believe but then again I'm not sure. I know when I sing in head and when I sing in falsetto because they feel and sound different, so I'm okay on that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Do you know what is actually chest and head registers? From what i understand Is this. When you try to phonate higher frequencies your resonant energy is traveling from your chest to your head. We manipulate the voice box and train our intrinsic muscles to make that shift smoother and to eliminate the break. And the break happens because body is jot used to the energy shift and tries to retain the chestlike belty quality as we use that all our lives for speaking. In other words we are re-habituating the body to be able to allow the resonant energy to travel to the head and in some deeper placements so we can controll it better and use it in our singing. Otherwise our body induces a "deffensive mechanism" and blow our glottis open, aka turns to falsetto for relieving the tension of unproper resonant energy shift. So how do you "mix" the resonances there is beyond me. And how do you control the "percentage" of the dominant register. Maybe im wrong but this explanation i just told you helped me to gain a bit more range and power to my voice. I repeat i am still a begginer and i still learn stuff everyday. And altiugh mixed voice is a thing and people often use that term i dont think it means what you think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carp Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 From the big man himself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Just so she doesent have to post again ill post for her. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Just so she doesent have to post again ill post for her. Anyone else? I only said that because you were the only one who was answering and I wasn't understanding your points...besides the other 3 questions have still gone unanswered and I just wanted to see if anyone else was going to answer or say something about them so yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 From the big man himself "> I LOVE THIS GUY!!! I've seen a ton of his videos before, though not this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I only said that because you were the only one who was answering and I wasn't understanding your points...besides the other 3 questions have still gone unanswered and I just wanted to see if anyone else was going to answer or say something about them so yeah... I did not get offended. But just FYI i am workingon my singing with 4 Pillars of singing which is a proggram made by the "man you love" Robert Lunte. In other words i told you a simplified version of the things he would tell you. Also for strenghtening you head voice you should learn how to use a vocal mode called Twang that enforces a vocal fold to close and create more compression in a way to produce a more robust "adducted" sound. And that should also help you sustain notenlonger as it closes your vocal fold and doesent let as much air thru. Also one of the main thing which Robert Lunte and TVS is really good at. In a way im reccomendig you to get skype lessobs with Robert or maybe get his 4pillars proggramm. There is no quick fix to make youbhead voice stronger. itsbanlong proccess even with proper workouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySoprano Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 I did not get offended. But just FYI i am workingon my singing with 4 Pillars of singing which is a proggram made by the "man you love" Robert Lunte. In other words i told you a simplified version of the things he would tell you. Oh okay, I thought you were being sassy or something like that XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabroni Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I did not get offended. But just FYI i am workingon my singing with 4 Pillars of singing which is a proggram made by the "man you love" Robert Lunte. In other words i told you a simplified version of the things he would tell you. Also, he's the owner of this forum, so he can further clarify but Elvis gave you a nice synopsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Oh okay, I thought you were being sassy or something like that XD I might have include a bit of sassyness but i apologise for that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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