Elvis Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Hey guys i wanted to share this tune with you. Its acapella and the voice can really be clearly heard. Its very interesting to see how he goes into head voice and how he sings in lower and upper ranges. Interesting to hear how he sing around passagio and how the tone quality changes thruout the song. Preety awesome song also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzikant Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Very easy to do actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Very easy to do actually. Maybe for you. Im a begginer and this is extremely hard for me to do without sounding like im just gushing air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzikant Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Just relax and try,it is much more on fallseto/head voice side.I never develop strong belts,but I always know how to scream best advice is not to push If "4 pillars" could learn me to sing like this,I would not be in doubt which program to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Try and imitate the sound. I learn better if I imitate the sound at first, pure mimic. Even if it doesnt sound like me I'll do it, for the feeling and everything, then once I start to nail the mimiced version I start to add my own nuances in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EveryVoice Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I love listening to acapella strems. I record and mix my own music so it's helpful to hear how the vocal track and other instruments are mixed. I have loads. I agree with D.Starr above on how he says imitate the sound. When I imitate I don't go straight in with the full amount of power. I just sing it lightly using more 'head' resonance. Over time I then try to add more weight to it with it forcing / straining / pulling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 My vibrato is a near match to Michael Jackson's because I studied him so much. I adored it so I made it mine. As long as you know when you're doing it wrong, pulling and hacking at it, take it a line at a time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Just relax and try,it is much more on fallseto/head voice side.I never develop strong belts,but I always know how to scream best advice is not to push If "4 pillars" could learn me to sing like this,I would not be in doubt which program to buy This post is confusing to me. What do you mean by falsetto/head voice? I did not think they were the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elvis, I would like to hear you do this song. I am thinking you would do well. And it's one of my favorite GnR albums. I listened to it for 6 months straight. It never left the cd player in my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elvis, I would like to hear you do this song. I am thinking you would do well. And it's one of my favorite GnR albums. I listened to it for 6 months straight. It never left the cd player in my car. I can certainly record something. But it wont be preety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Try and imitate the sound. I learn better if I imitate the sound at first, pure mimic. Elvis, where have you heard this advice before? Learn to imitate, then apply singing with support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elvis, where have you heard this advice before? Learn to imitate, then apply singing with support. Khass and believe me it helped alot. thats one of the reasons i found this vid interesting cuz it made me find some new configurations to sing with ill post a clip so you guys can hear how simple listening and mimicing helped alot + adding what i learned technique wise. Its far from what it needs to be but its a step forward in a right direction for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey guys i wanted to share this tune with you. Its acapella and the voice can really be clearly heard. Its very interesting to see how he goes into head voice and how he sings in lower and upper ranges. Interesting to hear how he sing around passagio and how the tone quality changes thruout the song. Preety awesome song also. Hahah.. this sounds awesome. Most people are on one side or the other with Axl, they either hate or love him. I definitely love his tone. Maybe not my favorite singer of all time but I love the edge to his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardavila13 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elvis, definitely give this a try! I'm curious to see how your voices fairs with this song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Elvis, definitely give this a try! I'm curious to see how your voices fairs with this song! Hahah you wont like it xD but ill record a video tomorrow XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardavila13 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hahah you wont like it xD but ill record a video tomorrow XD I doubt it, but we'll see :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzikant Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 This post is confusing to me. What do you mean by falsetto/head voice? I did not think they were the same. Yea,you are right.I am not sure is that more falsetto or head voice,but It is not very chesty for sure,so do not requier too much control,at least for higher voices.For someone with lower voice like Axl that is probably harder to do. That ofc doeasn´t change fact that Axl is amazing singer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yea,you are right.I am not sure is that more falsetto or head voice,but It is not very chesty for sure,so do not requier too much control,at least for higher voices.For someone with lower voice like Axl that is probably harder to do. That ofc doeasn´t change fact that Axl is amazing singer! Okay. Well, if you would like to hear Axl do falsetto, try "Better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Mohler Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Elvis, from what I heard your not that far off from getting this stuff dude. I'd kill to have that connected head voice stuff you did in that one example I heard. I am like a year behind where you are at now! Don't put yourself down bro, work hard on it and I bet this stuff is closer on the horizon than you think. Listen to Robert if you are his student though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzikant Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Okay. Well, if you would like to hear Axl do falsetto, try "Better." Check video posted by me in previous post,he singing in that song in similar tonality like Axl in "This I love",but Axl sounds very thin and metalic compared to Russian dude.Why Russian dude when singing D5 do not sound much differente then when he sings D4.Simply more chesty,natural and full.That was my point,I can imitate Axl but cant imitate Russian singer Valery Kipelov. Axl is one of my favourite vocalists,but I am not very impressed with his high notes( but I like that sound ),and I love his vocal colour,power,compression,rasp sound,energy on stage etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Well here it is. my best effort xDD like i said it sux like hell hahah but its only the first part which is not that high.xD https://app.box.com/s/su5k49w19nbpab92zav0ngya5tinyw26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Check video posted by me in previous post,he singing in that song in similar tonality like Axl in "This I love",but Axl sounds very thin and metalic compared to Russian dude.Why Russian dude when singing D5 do not sound much differente then when he sings D4.Simply more chesty,natural and full.That was my point,I can imitate Axl but cant imitate Russian singer Valery Kipelov. Axl is one of my favourite vocalists,but I am not very impressed with his high notes( but I like that sound ),and I love his vocal colour,power,compression,rasp sound,energy on stage etc.. Take a listen to Eyes of the Stranger by Queensryche. Geoff tate goes up to a D5 on the chorus and does not change to tone quality (alot) but he is singing in Head Voice. Its about practice, also i dont think you know what Head Voice is exactly. The fullness of the sound is not achieved by singing in Chest Voice or Head Voice. Its about resonance and vocal fold aduction and compression. Listen to the Iron Maiden song Where eagles dare. Bruce goes up to E5 i think on the word "dare" and he is employing his head voice, which sounds almost like extension of his chest voice. Also take a listen to the youtuber Will Shaw who sings TONS of songs that are in high 4th and 5th octave and his quality rarely changes. You would almost feel as if he is belting but he actually uses head voice. Maybe im wrong but thats what i figured out xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Check the video posted by me in previous post,he singing in that song in similar tonality like Axl in "This I love",but Axl sounds very thin and metalic compared to Russian dude.Why Russian dude when singing D5 do not sound much different then when he sings D4.Simply more chesty,natural and full.That was my point,I can imitate Axl but cant imitate Russian singer Valery Kipelov.Axl is one of my favorite vocalists,but I am not very impressed with his high notes( but I like that sound ),and I love his vocal colour,power,compression,rasp sound,energy on stage etc..It's two different things, a lot of the coaches on this board can teach you to do both. I can do both, the headvoice thing came a lot easier but after some work I can take My speaking voice up to D5-E5 ish. This is also very individual some find the more chesty approach easier other the headvoice, in the end with practice you can do both :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Musican, When you talk about those serious chesty sounding high notes you have to understand that some singers, have built up to, or accustomed themselves to sing under greater degrees of breath pressure. Their adduction musculature can nearly glue the folds together so that very little air passes through them. when you achieve this, and you get this to the right resonating cavity with strong support, you can get some serious power. But it's very physically demanding on the entire body, and you can't sustain this all night long. You may not even be strong enough nor desire to be, to get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielformica Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 MUSICIAN understand this does take while to get the hang of but remember it is a skill. so it doesn't require much physical strength. i repeat it doesn't require much physical strength. You can for sure sustain this all night long and night after night. Because it is not very physically demanding but more of a skill. think of it like golf, You don't need a lot of strength but you do need skill to put the ball to the right place.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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