Martin H Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Hi, I would like to post a little clip showing that you shouldn't be all that worried about your jaw protruding and posture in general: Starts at 2.17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted April 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2015 Interesting... yes, there is some jaw protruding there, doesn't seem to get in her way... but I wouldn't say it isn't something to be concerned about. This singing is pretty light. Her English is great. What is this, some show tune? Is this a colleague of yours Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Robert, Some show tune, well, this is a song from Chess, the musical? Have you ever heard of Pity the Child? I'll bet this song is something to try...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 This singing is pretty light. Her English is great. Light? Well, she's the one singing the Danish: In my opinion, one of the best version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted April 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2015 LOL... Ya, this is awesome... I really liked it. Frickin brilliant... just great... nice embed... that cat can belt and great intonation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted April 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2015 Light? Well, she's the one singing the Danish: In my opinion, one of the best version. Ya that rocks up a bit... cool... I like the point when she lets her hair down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin H Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Rob, By the way, you have made a good impression for Gethsemane. But in my opinion, try looking into Judas's Heaven on their mind: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Starr Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 This guy messes with his jaw too damn much Always see it as a way to get runs to sound a little bit more sharper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted April 11, 2015 Administrator Share Posted April 11, 2015 My Gethsemane? I'm ok at it, nothing stellar. I need to work in it actually... So this is great. I like theater that rocks... It's when it gets kinda "happy" and gay is when it loses me. I saw "Cats" in NYC and fell asleep... But I have discovered that theater tunes are just brilliantly written usually. I hope the genre continues to trend toward rocking out... Great contributions from Denmark today! Not surprising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 She seems to have an underbite and protruding chin already, without singing posture. I have not worried about my jaw too much. I am sure my posture stinks now and then. Mostly, I worry if the horns on my head are showing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I also like musicals rob! Have you heard this? She has like a thunderstorm in her voice, very rarely you see girls sing this much into their voice. This is a german version, there are english aswell, but i find the vowels line up much cooler in the german version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Carvalho Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Martin, doesnt jaw protrusion affect pharyngeal space directly? When using narrow vowels for example, is it still a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 This just proves that the "best practice" isnt always neccessary and you have to find what works best for you. Ultimately it comes down to reaching your personal goals in singing whether it is range, power, tone, stamina or whatever. And vocal health preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Carvalho Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Elvis I would say just control it. :p 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Elvis I would say just control it. Like everything in life :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 you call it corn, we call it maize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khassera Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Like everything in life "Grasping to control so I better hold on" -Greenday - Basket Case "Let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go let go" - Tool - The Grudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Robert Lunte Posted April 12, 2015 Administrator Share Posted April 12, 2015 This just proves that the "best practice" isnt always neccessary It absolutely does not prove that. There is nothing in Martin's contribution that proves that practicing at your best isn't always necessary. I am quite sure that if you asked this singer if it was ok to ever not practice at your best, she would look at you strangely, and say "huh"?... and walk away. Let's just safely assume... that it is always necessary to practice at your best. Let's just be our best at everything we do, regardless if your mandible jaw bone protrudes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It absolutely does not prove that. There is nothing in Martin's contribution that proves that practicing at your best isn't always necessary. I am quite sure that if you asked this singer if it was ok to ever not practice at your best, she would look at you strangely, and say "huh"?... and walk away. Let's just safely assume... that it is always necessary to practice at your best. Let's just be our best at everything we do, regardless if your mandible jaw bone protrudes or not. I meant in a performing manner. Protruded jaw is something that i heard is not favourable in singing and she sings extremely well despite the fact she is protruding jaw. And ofc when training you should strive for the best practice but when singing you let go off some technicalities in favour of comfort or style And in turn it doesent have to be a bad thing. And she is singing not training so thats why i said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny82 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 There are really some great songs in musical, I like this one a lot with the role switching, epic high note at 2:32, too. '> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Martin H Posted April 14, 2015 Author Share Posted April 14, 2015 Martin, doesnt jaw protrusion affect pharyngeal space directly? When using narrow vowels for example, is it still a good idea? Yes it will alter the shape of the vocal tract to some extend. In regards to narrow vowels, it's very common to protrude the jaw on the "OO vowel". Probably because the rounding of the lips can have a tendency to "pull" a bit on the lower jaw. I would actually go so far to say that most people do that even though they might not be aware of it. I do it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny82 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yes it will alter the shape of the vocal tract to some extend. In regards to narrow vowels, it's very common to protrude the jaw on the "OO vowel". I would actually go so far to say that most people do that even though they might not be aware of it. I do it all the time. I could be wrong but from my experience the protrusion and rounding of the lips, which is very common in classical singing and quite apparent on the OO vowel also causes a slight protrusion of the jaw actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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