The Scientist Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Hey, I have this problem that I always have to add volume to get higher notes. I just can't hit higher notes without adding volume, and singing a bit louder than I would like to. For example here: http://www.box.net/shared/ipi1dsi70n You can hear that I'm pushing a little, and I think I sing this a bit louder than I should, am I right? I would love to sing it softer but I just can't. I think I sing this in mix, but I think it's a bit too loud, right? but if I sing it softer than this I will go to falsetto for those higher notes. So how do I control my volume, and learn to hit higher notes in less volume? I have big problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 When I first opened my upper range, I could not control volume. Eventually, as more and more practice came along, with better breath support and better closure of the vocal folds, I was able to control volume better. Sometimes, you just have a note that resonates so well that it is loud. You could change that by changing the vowel pronunciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 In the example you posted, the vocal volume didn't sound wrong for the music. I think your timbre in this song lends itself to a shouty feeling but you weren't shouting. I don't think the song in the example was meant to be sung as soft as a lullaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 You are not singing in the mix, really, because you have not yet mastered the mix. You have good potential, but I suggest you get yourself some vocal program or a vocal coach that can help you bridge from the chest voice to your head voice. Many of us would call that technique "curbing", some would call it mix. There are even more ways possible. Then you need to train your ass off :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Youre working too hard, probably because you feel your headvoice isnt strong enough. A lot of people wont agree with me, but Im a fan of speech level singing (or rather its the only technique that Ive managed to wrap my head around a little so far), I think you should get closer to the relaxed feeling you have when you speak before adding tricks like grit on top. The voice youre using in the recording is much more tense than your speaking voice. Quick example: Im not working any harder or singing much differently to my speaking voice here, Im really just simply speaking in tune here. If I was a little less lazy I'm pretty sure that could be developed in lots of different ways: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Hey, I have this problem that I always have to add volume to get higher notes. I just can't hit higher notes without adding volume, and singing a bit louder than I would like to. For example here: http://www.box.net/shared/ipi1dsi70n You can hear that I'm pushing a little, and I think I sing this a bit louder than I should, am I right? I would love to sing it softer but I just can't. I think I sing this in mix, but I think it's a bit too loud, right? but if I sing it softer than this I will go to falsetto for those higher notes. So how do I control my volume, and learn to hit higher notes in less volume? I have big problem with that. can you tell me the song and artist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 can you tell me the song and artist? i heard the original song live just now. he is definitely leaning into that sound and twanging and is singing a well supported rich chest/head combo. sometimes (just my opinion) i think we don't realize the "effort" (hard to describe what i mean by "effort" though) expended for those sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gno Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Your tone sounds cool and you have a great feel for this song! It is easy to explain what is going on in CVT terms. You are singing the whole thing in Overdrive. Overdrive is very loud - you can't sing in this mode softly especially in this range. Overdrive is also a bit tougher the higher you go unless you train for it. With some practice you could sing this song in Overdrive with more control. But if you want to sing with less volume, you could try Curbing, which would take it down a notch. Neutral would be even quieter, but probably too quiet for this song. Curbing is going to require some learning of vowel modifications and practicing. It is used by a lot of pop rock singers in this range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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