question about KTVA stage 1 exercises for KTVA users and experts

[darkclaw3000]

can i throw in a comment about those lousy lip rolls? i.m.h.o., that is one exercise that is truly a barometer of your ability i.e., throat, jaw and face muscle relaxation, support, and consistancy of airflow. i never leave home without them.....lol!!!!

if i were a vocal instructor, that would be my main staple exercise i'd instill on my students for mastering.....it's indispensible for warming up, warming down, and warming in between.....

his "it's the la" exercise requires a really open mouth, taller than you think or feel initially comfortable with, and you have to relax yet support below well.

and the tongue tip has to be glued to the back teeth...lol!!!

ah i will take your advice for those liprolls then! it usually breaks off when im just starting to start my warmup/workout. but after im done, my liprolls went perfectly.

about the 'its the la'.. you said the tongue tip has to be glued to the back teeth. i think im slowly achieving that.. so it doesnt matter if the back big part of the tongue rises up for the 'leh' (as in lair) exercises?

[darkclaw3000]

darkclaw3000 - It's hard for me to distinguish the words so I'll go for the time code:

2:08 - C5 - it is the high note in the chorus. I beleive you are in CVT-Edge or Twanged Neutral. (Ken would say Head)

2:13 is B4 also in CVT-Neutral or Edge (Ken's Head)

2:15, 2:16 - F4 then A4, G4 - this is where Ken would want us to be in cubing and I think you are partially in Overdrive, and it sounds good to me. CVT would say that's perfectly healthy. You are supporting well.

thx so much guitartrek!!!! now i think im understanding these modes..

gonna get CVT soon to learn all this!

[darkclaw3000]

Not at all, I just had a hard time identifying the type of vibrato you use.

I guess "constriction" was the wrong term to use, my apologies.

hey y r u apologizing for hhahaha. im juz wondering and asking what you think thats all.

i didnt know there are types of vibratos.........=S..

to describe the one i used... er... i've no idea how to describe it actually.. but i feel the most 'vibrating' near the back of my throat? sometimes when i 'feel' the song, it juz came out by itself mostly..

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ah i will take your advice for those liprolls then! it usually breaks off when im just starting to start my warmup/workout. but after im done, my liprolls went perfectly.

about the 'its the la'.. you said the tongue tip has to be glued to the back teeth. i think im slowly achieving that.. so it doesnt matter if the back big part of the tongue rises up for the 'leh' (as in lair) exercises?

great, yes, once you're warmed up, doing lip roll octave slides too....good stuff. i read where your lip roll highest/lowest note is indicative of your range.

yes, i was taught to keep the tongue flat and foward during vowel-based exercises.

when singing, i (try) to only move it away from the bottom for consonants then as soon as they're sung, return the tip of the tongue behind the teeth. hopefully, it will become a habit.

[darkclaw3000]

great, yes, once you're warmed up, doing lip roll octave slides too....good stuff. i read where your lip roll highest/lowest note is indicative of your range.

yes, i was taught to keep the tongue flat and foward during vowel-based exercises.

when singing, i (try) to only move it away from the bottom for consonants then as soon as they're sung, return the tip of the tongue behind the teeth. hopefully, it will become a habit.

ah thats a good tip! will try it next time im practising!

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ah thats a good tip! will try it next time im practising!

another one i like that has helped me with range and helping control the larynx (if wanted) is that gug and gug exercise with a slight cry sound.

[darkclaw3000]

another one i like that has helped me with range and helping control the larynx (if wanted) is that gug and gug exercise with a slight cry sound.

ok how exactly does that sound like?? =P

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ok how exactly does that sound like?? =P

keep in mind you don't have to do it this as strongly as i did, you can lighten up on the cry or eliminate the cry altogether.

i did this a while ago, and i sure as hell had no intention of sounding pretty...lol!!!!

it's been great for helping to stabilize my larynx and range increase without pulling.

http://www.box.net/shared/ao40dgvbl7

[darkclaw3000]

keep in mind you don't have to do it this as strongly as i did, you can lighten up on the cry or eliminate the cry altogether.

i did this a while ago, and i sure as hell had no intention of sounding pretty...lol!!!!

it's been great for helping to stabilize my larynx and range increase without pulling.

http://www.box.net/shared/ao40dgvbl7

thx so much bro!! will try that! i just heard it, i think i have to sound like im swallowing something, but swallowing with an increasing pitch?

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thx so much bro!! will try that! i just heard it, i think i have to sound like im swallowing something, but swallowing with an increasing pitch?

no. not really swallowing, you're sounding kind of like yogi bear

keep from widening yor mouth

there are 3 things i love about this exercise:

-it helps stabilize the larynx

-you send just the right amount of air to the folds

- it's nearly impossible to pull up chest as you ascend.