GuitarLord Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hi, I have just stumbled upon one very interesting interview which Jaime Vendera (great known vocal teacher you all probably heard about) did with Myles Kennedy (one of the greatest new vocalists you also probably heard about , singing in Alter Bridge, and now touring with Slash). Myles is great singer as we all know, and he is always willing to share some thoughts about singing techniques with us, so I recommend you read this because there are some very clever thoughts about how to sing properly, how to keep your voice healthy, maintaining your voice while touring (which we will one day hehe) etc... Very nice interview. http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/myleskennedyi.html Now, one part that caught up my attention is this one: Jaime: Any exercises that help? Myles: It’s all a matter of how you manipulate the vowels as you ascend. A goes to uh, ah goes to oh, e goes to a. It’s not that simple unfortunately. In conjunction with that, I keep the air going through my nose while raising the soft palette (like yawning) and snarling at the same time. It took me years to get this down. It is a lot to think about while trying to perform. Now, as I don't have the best understanding with terms like raising soft palette (I know what it means, but not sure if I ever do it correctly, I mean - yawning while you sing, what does that definitely means and why we do it?), and this manipulation of vowels is something I would like to work on (I know CVT technique use this a lot) - so I would like to hear some thoughts about this part of interview and some of the explanations of what Myles said here (I think we all want to get into it:). It's not that I totally don't understand it (I have Singing Success and CVT, I'm very familiar with the first one, which helped me a little, and will work with CVT soon) but can we try to elaborate this stuff.. hmm Read interview fully, it's pretty pretty good stuff every singer should read and know Nikola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronws Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Excellent interview. Thanks for sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Hi, I have just stumbled upon one very interesting interview which Jaime Vendera (great known vocal teacher you all probably heard about) did with Myles Kennedy (one of the greatest new vocalists you also probably heard about , singing in Alter Bridge, and now touring with Slash). Myles is great singer as we all know, and he is always willing to share some thoughts about singing techniques with us, so I recommend you read this because there are some very clever thoughts about how to sing properly, how to keep your voice healthy, maintaining your voice while touring (which we will one day hehe) etc... Very nice interview. http://www.thevoiceconnection.com/myleskennedyi.html Now, one part that caught up my attention is this one: Jaime: Any exercises that help? Myles: It’s all a matter of how you manipulate the vowels as you ascend. A goes to uh, ah goes to oh, e goes to a. It’s not that simple unfortunately. In conjunction with that, I keep the air going through my nose while raising the soft palette (like yawning) and snarling at the same time. It took me years to get this down. It is a lot to think about while trying to perform. Now, as I don't have the best understanding with terms like raising soft palette (I know what it means, but not sure if I ever do it correctly, I mean - yawning while you sing, what does that definitely means and why we do it?), and this manipulation of vowels is something I would like to work on (I know CVT technique use this a lot) - so I would like to hear some thoughts about this part of interview and some of the explanations of what Myles said here (I think we all want to get into it:). It's not that I totally don't understand it (I have Singing Success and CVT, I'm very familiar with the first one, which helped me a little, and will work with CVT soon) but can we try to elaborate this stuff.. hmm Read interview fully, it's pretty pretty good stuff every singer should read and know Nikola thanks a lot for this interview..i love reading stuff like this. i just ordered the dvd/cd set he was talking about for $5.98!!! hey, for 6 bucks it can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillwynston Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Awesome interview!! Hope he brings a vocal dvd out soon!! Like you say such a nice guy!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 If you have the CVT book, just read it because all the info is there, f.ex. about vowel modification and the soft palate. In short, raising your soft palate can be done by yawning (which also usually lowers the larynx) and it darkens your sound colour while closing off the nasal passage at the same time (reducing or eliminating nasality). Yawning can also help create space for your voice to function better in the higher range and that space also allows for a more resonant, fuller sound, so in general it can help you GREATLY. Just make sure you don't OVERDO the yawning. There has to be a balance of not too much and not too little and only you can find it for yourself. You'll feel it when it becomes easier to reach the high notes and they sound a bit fuller. This is just one part of singing technique, but an important one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 If you have the CVT book, just read it because all the info is there, f.ex. about vowel modification and the soft palate. In short, raising your soft palate can be done by yawning (which also usually lowers the larynx) and it darkens your sound colour while closing off the nasal passage at the same time (reducing or eliminating nasality). Yawning can also help create space for your voice to function better in the higher range and that space also allows for a more resonant, fuller sound, so in general it can help you GREATLY. Just make sure you don't OVERDO the yawning. There has to be a balance of not too much and not too little and only you can find it for yourself. You'll feel it when it becomes easier to reach the high notes and they sound a bit fuller. This is just one part of singing technique, but an important one. to add to jonpall's comments...this yawning part is paramount i.m.h.o., to really pro-level singing. but don't look at it as taking a yawn, but rather configuring to a yawn or let's say a silent laugh. memorize this configuration. ken tamplin calls it "the la" it's a singer's mouth and jaw set up to me....once i started to use it, it became a memorized setup that i now go into automatically especially for higher notes. another "ordinary words" expanation of it is.... what if i told you that every time you go to open your mouth to sing imagine there are posts on either side in the back of your mouth keeping your mouth from closing. this configuration opens the throat and (for me) just makes things get out of trhe way so i can make brushstrokes with my vocal folds for pitch...... geno, and others know what i mean, and perhaps can add to my attempt to explain it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Those "posts" of yours sound very much like CVT description of the "bite" in overdrive, if I'm not mistaken. It's a cool thing, but note that you may want to get rid of that as you go higher than C5 because if you try to hold onto that configuration (the "bite"), it may prove simply impossible for you to go higher than C5. Btw. how ARE you doing with notes higher than C5, Bob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Those "posts" of yours sound very much like CVT description of the "bite" in overdrive, if I'm not mistaken. It's a cool thing, but note that you may want to get rid of that as you go higher than C5 because if you try to hold onto that configuration (the "bite"), it may prove simply impossible for you to go higher than C5. Btw. how ARE you doing with notes higher than C5, Bob? i wouldn't call it a bite, more of an intentional, now memorized formation...half yawn, half silent laugh perhaps? you see, we new yorkers are notorious for speaking like we don't need to open our mouths, we tend to muffle our words. so for me it feels like it's opened twice as much as need be.....but it probably isn't. how am doing with my c5's? not too bad....the highest exercise note for me now is a g5, depending on the exercise (and the day...lol!!!) but the really cool thing i'm experiencing lately is this ability to just tweak or pinch the folds together for pitches especially "ee" "ah" and "aw" i know you really can't feel the folds in the literal sense, yet i feel like i can. this is something new for me and i'm thrilled. i use lugo's vocal asylum exercises and you land in this place after you warmup where the folds just become isolated and tweakable mentally. all i care about on some of his exercises is keeping the folds together as i go up in pitch. other times it's vowel modifying to ease ascent and create that "ring." you can get addicted to that ring sound and the sensation of "efficiency" that goes with it...lol!!! i just keep experimenting. steve fraser mentioned about experimenting per your particular voice a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 That G5 is probabaly my highest comfortable note so far. I can very seldom go higher than that and I kind of want to and slightly envy guys who can do it, but then again, I haven't really practised it that much. And by the way, you may not call it a bite, but perhaps it's still what CVT refers to as a bite. I'm not sure, but it's great that it works well for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estef Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I think what Bob is talking about is CVT's open throat or Singing and the Actor's False vocal folds Retraction. Different names for the very same thing. I also think that's one of the most important things in singing. It really works great for people like me, who tend to constrict the hell out of me I will read that interview now I just wanted to give this little comment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I think what Bob is talking about is CVT's open throat or Singing and the Actor's False vocal folds Retraction. Different names for the very same thing. I also think that's one of the most important things in singing. It really works great for people like me, who tend to constrict the hell out of me I will read that interview now I just wanted to give this little comment... blackstar, that's exactly what that book calls retraction...i love that book!!! i find it's confirming assumptions and theories i had.....putting the puzzle together...i even go back after i read a page and read it again to make sure i didn't miss anything... and that exercise "ng" to a vowel!!!! i never realized how great that can be!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estef Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I know, it's a great book! I never did sirens before, but since I got it, I started doing them and they seem to be helping a lot, especially with constriction. I had never thought of using Zs either, but they make it much easier for me to warm up my voice and it seems to take less time to get my voice "prepared" for harder things. I'm glad you find it useful too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I know, it's a great book! I never did sirens before, but since I got it, I started doing them and they seem to be helping a lot, especially with constriction. I had never thought of using Zs either, but they make it much easier for me to warm up my voice and it seems to take less time to get my voice "prepared" for harder things. I'm glad you find it useful too! boy, had to fix all the type o's in that last post......lol!!! the "ng" is a nice placement in the voice to memorize...because unless i'm wrong (steve fraser needed) lol!!!i could feel how it can strengthen the head register... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Myles is friggin' awesome. What a great voice. I saw Alter Bridge live before, and was blown away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Myles is friggin' awesome. What a great voice. I saw Alter Bridge live before, and was blown away l love that he dosen't hide his training...he tells you point blank he's been at this for 13 years!! and he alludes to the same jitters and concerns we all have with your voices.... i gotta get that new slash cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpall Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That Slash CD has tons of catchy tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgivendays Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Mayfield Four is my favorite Myles Kennedy band. There's something their two CDs that just makes me melt. His best vocal styling (and guitar) imo was in the band before that, Citizen Swing. (sick guitar solo at 2:55) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Mayfield Four is my favorite Myles Kennedy band. There's something their two CDs that just makes me melt. His best vocal styling (and guitar) imo was in the band before that, Citizen Swing. (sick guitar solo at 2:55) i never knew myles was gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgivendays Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 He isn't. He's been with his wife for like 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VideoHere Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 He isn't. He's been with his wife for like 8 years. didn't he just comment that some guy was so hot on the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Budapest Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 really good interview... and I really have no idea who he is. The tongue exercise that they talk about sounds interesting. Wonder what it is. Ron Anderson's lessons (his teacher) are like $450 an hour. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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