jonpall

Thanks guys. Ron, are you referring to a specific place in the song or just all the time?

Doesn't Ken's new program have ANY info on distortion, not even in stage 3?

When you say "too squeezed" - do you mean the mix or my vocals?

Btw. this track has yet to be mixed better while "Summer of 69" which is in another thread HAS been mixed - at least a bit.

Hi guys,

Here's another song that me and my band recorded in our rehearsal place a few days ago. This is a live recording and always works well in our set list. If you could take the time to tell me what you think, it would be most appreciated:

https://www.box.com/s/fkplk7q6krel0q4nutzt

Regards,

jonpall.

Btw. as alway with rock recordings, it sounds best when played at maximum volume . So turn it up and roll down your windows. This is the song for it :)

Hi guys! It would be cool to hear what you think of my singing here:

https://www.box.com/s/iidhmlkmploo1kgrrs34

This is a live recording of me singing with my band during rehearsals. I'm using a dynamic mic so I'm sure that if I'd used a condenser and comped the vocal track, it would have sounded better.

What do you think of my singing here and what do you think people in general will think? I'm not absolutely sure if the vocals are good enough so I'd like to hear your opinions. I've got a thick skin for this so just tell me how you really feel about this, bad or good.

Have a nice day!

jonpall.

I will! Currently I'm in new york, but once I'm back! Anything fun happens on saturday in new york?!

I've heard it's pretty slow. Delaware is where the fun is at, IMO.

Great rock singing man!! I agree with Tommy that it would sound even better if you'd learn the song better.

Hi breakin! I think it's pretty simple, if you have the cvt book, try to sing an entire song below your passagio and sing it mostly in overdrive, but some neutral and curbing maybe here and there for added dynamics. Then post it here. What you're missing on that track of yours to have a more solid chest voice is to increase your volume a bit and sing while holding your breath (being even slightly breathy robs you of power). I don't mean that you should sing as loud as you can - but a bit louder. Try that to start off with, post it here and see where it takes you. That's what I would suggest. I'm sure you'll nail it out of the park after just a few tries. Have a nice day!

I pretty much agree with Felipe (I tend to do that, it seems), that you're lacking in the technique department. You seem to have an ear for melody so that's a good thing, since you will already have a head start on many people who don't. But your lack of technique is affecting not only your range and high notes, but your tone and pitch on the low notes as well. Doing some vocal training will help you with that and, like Felipe, I really suggest that you develop a fairly solid CHEST voice before you start working on your high notes all the time. You can do it and you have the potential, man! Cheers!

I like your tone and you sing like you really mean it. Great job Felipe!

I'm generally not impressed by notes above E5, but I must admit that what's impressive about Child in time is the fact that the highest screams go to A5 . Just like the highest note in Steelheart's "Never let you go".

I would post a cover but I usually peak at G5 and if I remember correctly, the highest screams are A5s. How high are the screams of mr. Lunte and mr. Evil? But perhaps I'll get off my ass and try to improve my range to A5.

I actually started headbanging when I heard Jugulator's Helloween cover I'd never heard the song and I've listened to very little from Helloween. devaitis, I think it's just Jugulator's style in this song that's not your cup of tea. It has that Geoff Tate sound, I think. My guess is that you'd like it better if he were to add a slight cry/hold to his notes in the passagio and higher - and I might dig it more if he'd put some distortion, right? lol. But nevertheless I really liked that take. It was fun to listed and watch. Meeeetal maaan!! ;)

Hi,

I recommend the reading of this post;

http://www.punbb-hosting.com/forums/themodernvocalist/viewtopic.php?id=2033

Take in whats been said by All, JonPall has plenty of experience with these songs...

Also ... I recommend having a skype with JP, I think he'll free you up a bit and have you singing with better clarity. It'll also be good for JP having a coaching lesson (if he's up for it ) ... p.s. love to listen in.

Stew

I just posted on that thread. Thanks, Stewart. Olem, IMO, you should just work on your pitch as the next step for you. You have loads of talent but you need to improve your pitch. Cheers!

Loved that Kotzen cover of yours. The main difference between you and Richie is the hat, IMO. Seriously, I think you did a great job and were using very similar techniques. And that guitar playing was simply WORLD CLASS, man! . You see, my name's Jon and I'm a shredder too. I've been shredding for many many years and trying my best to play at regular speed. Everyone say "Hi, Jon!". Ok, I'll sit down now.

Here's some of my shredding and guitar playing in case anyone is interested:

(A Steve Vai cover. Sorry about the audio quality) and http://www.box.net/shared/ikyndtkuix (better quality, original instrumental tune with 2 solos). I know that there are more "shredders" on this forum that few know can really wail, so it would be cool to hear some of your playing too :)

In general, I liked it and I think that you have a good sounding voice. I suggest you work on singing the absolute correct english vowels because a) it sounds like you have an accent and you will sound more resonant that way and c) it will be much easier for your throat. I also suggest that you try to work on having an even flow of air when you sing. Cheers!

Thanks, guys.

Thanks, Ron.

Here I cheated slightly. Well, maybe not exactly, because this is what is done all the time in studios. I noticed that there were two places in particular that REALLY bugged me, so I did a little "punching in" and re-did those two places. Those two places are actually just a few words, so there is very little change. Anyway, so here is the slightly improved version:

http://www.box.net/shared/4d7mzfp117

Note that I'm deliberately having constant rasp and not just every now and then, just for the sake of practising rasp. Personally, if it were my own original song, I'd use it more sparingly. Just wanted to let you know that :)

Good job! My only suggestion at the moment would be to make your sound slightly less "dopy". You're probably lowering your larynx and raising your soft palate slightly too much. It can often help to do this on the higher notes, so it's great that you're aware of it, but just don't overdo it. That's just my opinion.

Hmm, after listening to that Linkin Park song again, it sounds like it's rather curbing than overdrive, but he's using very little hold/cry so it's hard to tell. However, that high note is a F4 so it's definitely possible to sing that chorus in overdrive, like you're doing in your clip.

Well, that line is too high for me, so even though this was recorded without warming up, you won't find me doing much better than this even after 1 hour of vocalises: http://www.box.net/shared/il8bhtyjfq

Also, those sirens are impossible for me to do 0.0

You're already doing it well here! What are you worrying about? :)

I'm only really interested in the part after 2:24, lol, where he repeats "On a Valentine's Day" a million times

To sing like that you definitely don't need to twang as much as you're doing in those clips of yours. That's just standard overdrive, below the passagio. Can ty record yourself attemping that line?

Also, I think that if you want to work on just twang, try neutral instead of overdrive. Much easier, I think. Much less things you have to think about. But if you want to work on twang with very loud volume in overdrive going to either edge or MLN (and with bit darker sound colour than you're doing), you try one of Jamie Vendera's full voice sirens exercises, like I'm doing here: http://www.box.net/shared/ulyiyrr3sr

Have you tried letting those high notes resonate more from your head than the lower notes? Sounds like your doing the classic "pulling chest". I'm not entirely sure what you're asking for here. Do you f.ex. have a song that you'd like to sing or sing something similar to? Around G4 or even lower, for men, it starts to become a good idea to switch from overdrive to a different mode (CVT) as you go up in pitch.