Douglas

Great job guys! Nice D6, and the wail at the end was great too.

Thanks Snax.

Hi guys,

I am curious about the gain issue? I am currently trying to learn about voice recording with a much cheaper DAW then you guys are using (I only have REAPER) but it looked to me like the levels were pretty good and there was no cliping so I am curious what the issue was? Just asking cause I have no idea

Doug

Hi! I think it would do you good to practise ONLY certain phrases over and over instead of the whole song. Do you ever do that? Cheers!

Hi Olem,

First I wanted to say, that I liked your cover, and though you had improved it using some of the advice that folks from the forum had given you.

I wanted to echo Jonpall, it is often helpful for me to focus on a part of a song and get it down, before putting the entire thing together, it also makes it easier for the folks giving you constructive criticism to focus on the same section. Some of the sections were really good, some seemed to me that they might benefit from a bit more work.

Finally, I noticed that there is a new guy in the forums typing "\m/" for folks that covered metal songs well, and I wanted to be the first to type it to you so..... \m/! (I think these are supposed to be an emoticon version of metal horns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns )

Doug

For the chorus.

Oops sorry I edited my question to make it more clear. Aren't there two ways Bruce sings it as depicted above? And sorry for editing my question right when you replied. You were to quick for me!

Thanks so much.

Doug

Hi Jonpall and everyone,

There are two ways it gets sung though right?

The first from jonpall

Run G4

to B4

the C5

hills A4

Run G4

for E5, then D5

your C5

lives D5, then A4, then B4

Then the next (allowing for the octave convention)

Run G4

to B4

the C5

hills, A4

run G4

for C5 slide to B4

your B4

lives B4

Would you agree with this Jonpall?

Thanks so much.

Doug

so the next task will be to find the mixed voice or curbing. By the way, i am not sure i know the notes for the chorus. Could someone help me with that. C5 to E5 or something?

Hi Olem,

I am happy to share what the sheet music from Musicnotes says, though it may not be the key he is actually singing it in. Also there is a convention that mens voices are sometimes writen as an octave higher than they are sung. If someone has more insight into this I would love to hear about it. Anyway here are the notes as writen.

Run G5

to B5

the C6

hills, A5

run G5

for C6 slide to B5

your B5

lives B5

I should also mention that there is a coda which is higher.

I hope this helps some.

Doug

EDIT: and there is another part of the chorus too, hopefully it is straightend out in the posts below ;)

Hi Olem,

Please remember that I am just a voice student.

I liked the MLN version better and wonder if you might not make that sound a lot like Bruce with more support?

Because you are using the term MLN I am going to guess you are familiar with CVT. Lots of folks that have studied pedagogies that use the term "mixed voice" like Singing Success and Speech Level Singing use mixed voice to describe what would be Overdrive->Curbing-> Neutral in CVT as they go from lower pitch to higher pitch. This could put what they call mixed voice in the neutral territory and specifically MLN territory on the high notes. Of course I do not mean to put words in anyone’s mouth and those who use the term mixed voice are best qualified to define it.

I have been listening to Run to the Hills a few times and I think maybe the high notes are MLN. There have been some discussions on other boards and lots of people think it is curbing but I am not convinced. Either way though it is debatable. Remember in the high part of the voice MLN can be loud. Some other participants may disagree, but even if he isn’t using MLN you still could, and I think it sounds better that way when you are doing it.

Anyway it might be worth a shot, it wouldn’t hurt working on it that way for a bit.

Thanks so much for letting me comment.

Doug

Hi Olem,

I am just learning to sing so, please take what I say with a grain of salt.

I think having the timing off makes it hard to tell how well you are singing since the harmony doesn't sound right. That said, you might find it easier to get it in MLN rather than curbing.

Would you be willing to post just the chorus? perhaps in MLN?

Thanks for posting your recording and the opportunity to comment.

Doug

Hi Nathan,

I thought they sounded good. I have heard professional singers do less well.

As a voice student myself I am not sure what comments you would find helpful. Are you going for a sound that you feel aren't getting? Or are you tring to meet an ideal that you think you might be judged against for one of the schools you are interested in? If you could share some information about what you are trying to achieve it might help me make suggestions at least. It may be that some of the pros will have several ready to go.

Thanks for posting.

Doug