slstone

I mean step over his words, when his word starts yours start too and the syllables are on top of each other until the word ends, not doing exactly what he does. On some parts i can hear something like time difference between lead and backing vocals. Mixing was fine btw.

Butcher i'm sorry you can't or don't want to understand my point of view. Don't take what i write offensively. I feel like writing at the "Tell Us About You" section.

I don't understand what the pity is about but thanks for the advice. I don't take whole day to write a review, i just listen to the song and re-listen many times spots i didn't like or i think they are "objectively" wrong (i don't have the best ear i have to admit) or i think could improve. That takes lets say 10'. You are asking for critique, i am trying to provide with what i can understand about music. Also i do my critique and at the end i write a comment on how i liked it generally which is like a grade to understand better. Just keep that last comment as a critique. You don't like either my critique or my way of expressing it, roger that, you won't hear from me again.

You lost your bet , i'm not good at singing so you can stop being jealous! I posted two songs before half a year and got my critique, it was around what i expected bad singing, out of my range and more. The reason i don't post covers is that i have a -great- teacher to review, critique and correct my singing real time and i am at a point where i can correct my own mistakes by recording. Hope i reach the point where i will need others to show me my mistakes.

I don't believe you need someone better than you to judge you, sing in public and watch the peoples behavior, that gives an estimation of where your singing stands. Vast majority can't sing better than you and heck i dare to say even better than me. If they start changing direction to avoid you means you could say like "Hey go sing better and come back to judge me"? If we were at a team sport and played at the same position and i judge you for something then you could say, "Do it better before you correct me" though i don't support even that attitude, it is more acceptable.

At last i remind you, you are at "Review & Critique My Singing" section, at your own will.

Don't misinterpret what i'm saying or take it offensively.

Man, that message took me about 40' to compose and correct, i could've nit-picked 4 songs by now. I'm gonna have some hard time sleeping tonight

Those reasons are why I don't critique anybody here, I only post comments relative to the subject, rather than comments on the actual songs/performance etc. People get their feelings hurt when something less than stellar is posted. It becomes difficult for progress to occur when people are busy being defensive rather than focusing on how to make it better.

MDEW, you are correct, it wasn't actually harmony, it's unison. Harmony, in music, is an opposing note. Unison is when you sing the same note, even if it is in a different octave.

p.s. I still say Bay is a Dexter fan.

I posted elsewhere. Cheapy redneck pop/sibilant filter.

Go to walmart. go to craft section. grab needlepoint hoop(4 to 5 incher). head to ladies apparel grab thing of pantyhose. go to register and pay for goodies. head home. once home, drill a hole on both sides of outer hoop. place panty hose over inner hoop. insert hose through holes of outer hoop. pull tight and tie ends. attach bottom of hoop to mic holder and place on mic stand in front of microphone. total cost less than $5. works great.

There. I helped again....

The lyrics I had learned were:

"And all the good you've done will soon get swept away .."

But don't worry, in my version I forgot the ending lyrics and just repeated the ending chorus. My brother, who played the instruments and mixed it, politely did not point that out. It wasn't until I heard the finished product that I realized my mistake.

You also didn't sing some of the intro lyrics just mentioned. This was due to the fact that you started singing late in the progression of the music. You could have fit it all in. I think the timing of my arrangement may have confused you. I didn't mention those things either. Either way, over all your version came out pretty good I think, and got you tons of kudos from all of our friends here.

Now, I don't comment or critique people's singing here, as most know. However I did notice that the band(college?) almost lost it on the timing during the short instrumental passage, as they got out of time with each other, but they recovered quickly for the rest of the song.

reminds me of..."jocularity....jocularity"....Father Francis Mulcahy

I like this version way better. So much better, I was imagining being Nicko and what an endurance test this song must be on the drums. Which is a good sign. It means the singing fit this song and didn't demanding attention to "fix" something, at least in my humble opinion.

As a note of interest, Nicko was once considered the fastest feet in drumming. Because many of those fast galloping rhythms, he does with one foot. He very rarely actually uses both for a double bass effect....

That's exactly what I am saying. Also, when you record digitally, the better software will allow you to adjust timing as well. Basically by dragging the track as necessary. How do you think I incorporated your vocal tracks when we collaborated on "Heaven on Their Minds"?

I imported the tracks, then "dragged" them to where they needed to be, then added effects to the tracks.

As far as editing out sounds, good software allows for editing the track, highlighting a section and basically muting or silencing that small section.

But yes, you will be less stressed and frustrated when you only have to re-record a small section rather than an entire track. As comparison, in one of our last posts here, when you punch in(re-recording a part using the same track as the entire vocal line), if you make a mistake, it still affects the entire track. Or as sometimes happens, it doesn't kick in like it's supposed to and doesn't record. If you are like me, then that one time it doesn't record will be the time you sing it your absolute best as if your life depended on it. And the only one who got to enjoy your awesomeness, is you. Because the next take isn't as awesome.

That's ok. I was just giving definitions to the above mentioned recording techniques and suggesting which one is easier to use. Trying to make everyone's recording life easier. People will learn that when the punch in technique sometimes doesn't key up when it's supposed to, one gets frustrated quickly as one sings the best track of one's life just to discover it didn't record...takes the wind out of one's sales from time to time.

Just trying to give others the benefits of my recording mistakes.

Thanks, Basslord.

I was watching a tutorial on recording vocals. And the guy made several good suggestions. A singer can sing complete takes, which is really wearing on the singer. And then, later, you can slice and dice and copy and paste.

Or, a quicker way is to start recording. And when you get to a foul-up, start recording again only from where the foul-up was, rather than the whole thing, again. You get through the vocal recording much quicker. The singer remains interested. Later, you just mix down the partial tracks into the final recording. And it is no more laborious to apply auto to each track than several complete tracks.

Or, you could do as my brother suggested, record each phrase of lyrics separately. For recording purposes, it is not "cheating."

Now, for me, performance wise, I would still work on a single vocal but when it comes to recording a good run, that requires a different (slightly) perspective than live performance.

On the other hand, I still get my performance practice when I record guitar and vocals as one track and one mic.

Hey, Bro, what you are referring to there is called punching in. Timing has to be precise when doing so because it still gets recorded onto your "one" vocal track. Trust me. Try both and you will see why I suggest it. Using multiple tracks is much easier than punching in. Also, as a note, punching in was invented as a means of re-recording tracks back in the analog tape recording days, which also had much fewer tracks available for recording. You had to make every track count. A particular size tape only allowed so many tracks. I still have a Tascam 8 track recorder that uses Type II Chrome Tapes for recording. That size tape has only enough space for 4 tracks on each side. When recording, it records your 8 tracks on both sides of the tape simultaneously. Therefore, you cannot flip it over and use the back side. It also allowed for mixing everything down to one track this opening up the remaining 7 again for recording. But, due to the physical limitations of tape, it becomes a copy of a copy. Which means the more you do it, the less the audio quality. The proverbial recording piper has to be paid. Digital recording allows for much more freedom in controlling every aspect of recording. Easier to add effects digitally as well, than with analog.

Told ya, I'm a wealth of info on this subject. Thinking about putting together a home studio program with video instructions on how to do things......

That's why many of the pros record everything on separate tracks. I made the same mistake in the past. Flub after 5 minutes of song then have to redo it...many times. That's why I now record one phrase at a time on separate tracks. Any mistakes, you only have to re-record a short part, not the whole song again. If you want better results, try that. Just offering recording advice...

Just a note. The second voice during the chorus isn't harmony. It's a unison note an octave higher. Same during the end of the song. Just clarifying, musically speaking.

That's because Blaze didn't do harmonies. I have X Factor and Virtual XI. While I like both albums, not really a big fan of Blaze. I think his range is a bit limited too, especially as compared to Bruce. I am a die hard Maiden fan, so I would buy the albums. Bruce was sorely missed in that time.

Printing out a lyric sheet helps as well.:)

Which is why most non American bands who want to make it big sing in English. Most school aged kids around the world is basically forced to learn English. Because music in their native languages will basically only get them fans of their native countries. People that sing in English, get fans from all over the world.

Sad fact of language in America(in my opinion): I think non American bands who sing in English speak much better English, than people who immigrate to America. If you've ever been called by a creditor or telemarketer in America, what is the average % that the person on the other end had such a thick accent, that you found it difficult to understand?

So kudos to bands around the world for taking the time do it well!

Anyone here ever heard of a band in the 80's called Gorky Park?

They are Russian!

This song was their main hit, don't remember if they had any others.

Absolutely, Bro. Just ask me, I am the King of recording cheaply but well at home.

So, they can go have a good cry and a tissue and then get on with life, in their own way.

Reminds me of that commercial when they say, "does a marine drill instructor make a good therapist"?

lol.

That is cool, Slstone, i don´t like Lordi so much anymore because they made me eat a hat a couple of years ago. I made a bet when they competed in the Eurovision Song Contest that i would eat my hat if they won the contest and they did. so...

PS I like Lordi

That'll teach you...

Some of my online friends have been covering Lordi. kind of Finland's answer to Gwar.

This song is pretty cool:

That's why I host my tunes for people's pleasure on my own website. I had to change host's recently, but current host is up 99.9% of the time.

Type O Negative did a cover of Cinnamon Girl, that's pretty good:

I have always thought he wasn't very good at singing or guitar. As has been said, it's his songwriting that drags you in.

Musically sounds like a bit of Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. Vocal melody reminds me of Yngwie melodies and harmonies.

Let's just say I'm a fan of all 3.

P.s. I sense a little Kiske in there as well.

Hey everyone, don't let this guy fool you. He's made quite a name for himself on youtube, lol. I've been watching videos he's participated in for quite a while. This guy has awesome pipes and technique. Coming from me, that's a big thing to say, as I rarely comment on people's singing.

Welcome!

A little taste...

That's ok. I have one better than that. I never knew Dad died until 3 years after the fact. Seems nobody told me when it happened...that was the one and only time I ever spoke with his widow as well.