Kevin Ashe

hey sp3c.....,

I forgot that the review my singing cost's like $10 in here. Either Draven or Robert (there may even be others now - coaches) will review your material and refute or confirm the advice I gave you. Plus answer any further questions you may have.

3 hours ago, sp3c13srock said:

  Sorry for your ears lol.

 

That siren wasn't horrible. You got a little shaky right at the passaggio. Now I would check with Robert Lunte on this but I would say

1- your right about diaphragmatic support, that will stabilize some on this and is important for most all phonations.

2- It sounds like the shakiness has to do with the weakness in your passaggio, your trying to make a good connected sound when it's not easy for you, and your probably worried (at least subconsciously) about pushing/choking, and that just adds to the tentativeness.  I think if you look up the "lift up, pull back" vocal exercise found on Rob Lunte's Youtube channel, that is a passaggio tension releasing exercise that should help you.  It allows you to engage the passaggio with zero tension, then add in more connection as you move past the break.  It's an easy tension free falsetto phonation that over time, you begin to add in more and more vocal fold connection or mass (within the passaggio).  I never had this exercise when I was training for more strength and connection at the break, it's a brilliant innovation that will keep your constrictors at bay, and ultimately leads to more power with no tension as your strength on those passaggio notes grows!

good luck Bro!

k

On 12/11/2018 at 12:42 PM, sp3c13srock said:

This song is out there.  I like it, I'm happy with it, but I want to learn how to take my voice higher obviously.  I'm a baritone I think.

spc3c...,

Excellent composition! Great style and arrangement, good air play material, catchy hooks, lots of melody! Very good musicianship!  Your voice is very marketable as well! Reminds me a little bit of Tyler Joseph (21 Pilots), maybe a dash of Matt Shultz (Cage The Elephant)!  I like it a lot! 

When you sing the lyric, "with no place to go home" - Sounds to me like you're singing with good connection in the lower realm of your head voice!  Double check with a coach, but I'm fairly certain. I would predict that with just a couple months of committed training with a good coach and training system, you will sing much higher!

You should check out Robert Lunte's Youtube channel and search for lectures on the subject of Baritone's singing high notes.  Lot's of good solid facts that will power you up with confidence about the reality of expanding your range to include notes more common to a tenor. The truth is, you'll learn in those videos that vocal "Fach," (Bass, Baritone, Tenor, Alto, Soprano) are essentially a distraction in vocal training. Proper training leads to expansion of range, coordination, strength, respiration, and also, confidence, projection, release of tension, vibrato, distortion, . . . . the list is long! The point is, it takes work in the vocal "gym" so to speak, that being vocal workouts that bring the above mentioned qualities to your singing voice.

Are you training? Do you have a vocal training program or a coach you are studying with?

It's never been more affordable than today!

peace,

k

On 6/14/2017 at 10:41 AM, Alan Tran said:

Would scales help with runs? I'm finding that I know what notes I need to hit in my runs, but the control isn't there to execute it. It's like my mind knows what to do but my vocal chords aren't in sync. 

when I researched this same question, I found that the Utoob videos that seemed the most helpful for improving both accuracy and speed in singing runs, were the videos that had you begin singing the run "scale" very slowly then, speeding it up gradually so that your larynx becomes increasingly agile, enabling greater speed and more accurate pitch.  

This kat seems to know his stuff, I like this video:

1 hour ago, MDEW said:

I have been having a bit of success by modifying to "F-Ah-L" rather than "F-aw- L".

InterResting!  yes, vowel modification is my number one downfall when encountering pitch or texture issues with a particular challenging lyric. It is often corrected (for me) by modifying the vowel.

1 hour ago, MDEW said:

If I am going to go ahead and sing in M2 on that note I might as well raise the key to be further in my head voice rather than right on by breaking note.

Yes Joe however, choose a song that has your undeveloped "low head tones" in it so you can check your progress. Your comments reminded me of a classic Rob Lunte video!  Strong low head tones are the grandest illusion in the physics of singing! Name any awesome singer, their low head tones are likely really well developed!! 

On 5/15/2017 at 7:09 PM, MDEW said:

 I finally had the opportunity to record this again, Let me know if I did better or worse. 

So, in this post I discover your name is "Joe."  I always enjoy your musical posts Joe! You possess a great authentic folk sound that can't be taught too easily.

Also, good song choice for a folk interpretation! Nice work!

My observation is that you need to apply two simple techniques.  Your high notes in each of the "complete" lines of lyrics:  "and 'round"   "my love"  "they say that the road....." etc.  are pitch tentative.  In my opinion, you should be able to fix this with minimal effort.  The two techniques, 1-appoggio 2-sing with M2 (no chest pulling) on the highest notes.  Both of these techniques are most needed on the line, " strangers learn to fall in love again..."

Are you seated while playing your guitar and singing?  I know that when I am seated to play and sing, got to be on top of posture to make lung room, also more conscious of diaphragm action when seated.

of course, vowel modification is something that always demands scrutiny AND, often fixes pitch issues as well. I did not think of this while listening.  That's all I hear Joe, what do you think?

Hi Ryan!

First, I must confess, I'm not as familiar with some of the terms geran89 is using. However, I would agree it sounds as though you may be using "true folds" in some of your vocal effects. I agree with geran89 that you should be wary of any discomfort.

I thought I would leave a comment since many years ago I had the same questions you have. I did a lot of experimentation and research to discover what it really meant to be able to sing with distortion, rasp, grit, etc. and not cause any damage.

I would underscore two main ideas as answers to your questions which I discovered made all the difference for me in being able to apply said vocal effects without damage or strain.

1- appaggio - without proper support of the breath, NO distortion technique will effectively avoid damage or discomfort.

2- Never with "true cords" - only false cord distortion will avoid damage. (only one exception - refer to #1).

Good Luck dude!

k

MDEW,

I like your voice! Your sound colors on this track fit the genre really well!  Cool of you to share your talent with us! Good song selection for your voice also. I could see you singing (as far as "covers" go) a few artists really well with this style of singing. i.e. John Prine, Dylan (as Mr. Lunte suggested), Arlo Guthrie, Jackson Browne, maybe Neil Young for some M2 challenges.

I would say, maybe if your appaggio was a bit more strong we could hear you sustain some more notes and let that cool, sweet vocal texture you have (rasp included) resonate a little longer! At the end of the song (about min. 3:00) you begin to retard and your singing sounds considerably more supported there! Well Done!