GallantAxis

@GallantAxis
Gallant, you need training content and instructions and demonstrations to show you how to train and practice. Regardless of who's concepts your wrapping your head around.
 
 

Nice presentation Rob.
@Gallant, as Robert said, CVT and TVS can work perfectly fine together.
To get another view on onsets which is a big part of TVS.
I can help you, if there's something you don't quite understand.

When it comes to singing... specifically the training and practice of singing to get better... we are ALL kinetic learners. How could you not be? How can anyone that is not completely madd or delusional, think they are going to sing great without practicing? Singing is an athletic endeavor, it requires that you strengthen and coordinate the body, tune the hear, etc... Muscle Memory , Motor Skills... You HAVE to workout and sing!
... and I harp on this all the time in here... and I preface this by saying, I have learned good ideas from my colleagues at CVT and have definitely been inspired by them.... and others, but for the life of me, I cannot understand how you can offer a voice technique/method service and product and not have any vocalize? No workouts? I just don't get that... But ya, there are a lot of differences, but that is probably the #1 issue.
BTW... Im not trying to "sell" you... I am being your "trusted advisor" that is trying to make sure that your needs can be met... some of them you are aware of, many others you are not aware of. What may appear to be ONLY an effort to close a sell, really isn't. Sure, Id love to have you as a client and student of the program, but all this energy and effort with you today is not about making a "sell". It is about genuinely trying to help you and guide you to get you what you need.

Robert, thank you for getting back to me.  I was not bothered by the wait, it seems I've been in good hands through and through.

I have put a bit of thought into investing in your program, but I must ask, what sets it apart from CVT?  I bought that program a while ago and it helped me learn a lot, but it didn't seem to help me address what you are referring to when you speak about acoustics.  Which, I've never really thought about my voice outside of the physiological, so thank you for broadening my perspective of that.  What's difficult for me to comprehend of acoustic singing is the application since I've never really been aware of what that means and how it applies to me.. 

MDEW just described changing the size of the vocal tract, which is what I would assume to be similar if not exactly what you are speaking about.  I have a ways before I can afford your program at this time, so where do I start aside from pure experimentation?  After you put it into perspective, it caused me to question whether I am anything more than just acquainted with my voice/voices and that I don't really know it/them all too well.  It seems that all I know about phonation is vowel usage, which appears to be improper at that. 

Also, do you really think I could make a dramatic improvement in a some-what short amount of time?  This woman that I mentioned in my original post told me that I would have to spend like a decade in making my voice what I wanted it to be, then went on to say that all training I have done already was a complete waste.  This is frustrating to me and makes me feel that I cannot achieve the level of skill I have in mind for myself.

Hi!

A little background: I have trained my vocals with a college instructor for roughly four years, I haven't had a lesson in nearly two. The reason I say this is because I had posted on Yahoo forums only to be lectured without constructive criticism by someone who had the information I was asking about only because I was hoping someone would provide it free of charge. I am a student. I am also broke. Whenever I can afford to, I will reinvest in a vocal coach because I am aware that not having one has lead me to developing bad habits.  She pretty much told me I shouldn't sing at all without years of proper training; in other words, said my vocals sucked!

My techniques are full of bad habits. I need help analyzing them and figuring out what I can do to release the tension and build a stronger, healthier voice--that much is certain--but I am determined to learn the techniques used by a specific singer.

Anyways, here is a song of mine for example.
 


I did every part by myself, I also produced it with Cubase LE 5 and Ozone, but I am a crap producer and I don't have great equipment. The vocals are also completely random and nonsensical because I am more concerned about the tone of my voice at the moment and would like to address that before I do any serious song writing.. This song was really just an effort to get myself out there in the first place, but I'm apprehensive to advertise myself because of the quality of my voice.

Here are a few more random examples.
 
Clip C isn't my backing track...just to clarify.  It's only for an example.

I'm bothered by this in a few ways. For one thing, there's no smoothness in my tone.  For another, I'm shouting at times.

I am actively aware of my diaphragm and attempting to further naturalize my reaction to breath down into it, but the control seems to be an issue...I've heard that I need more breath while singing higher, but I can't separate myself from pushing the notes and it actually seems like I'm using less air...I feel like the only thing that sounds good most of the time is my distorted belts..

It should probably be worth mentioning that I had a background in metal too.  I was unable to learn my screaming method under a teach...so I think I may be fry screaming and I've heard that was bad as well.  Could that be relative to my incorrect executions of belted distortion?

I am very fond of the distorted belt, one used by my favorite singer, Jonny Craig.
This song here is amazing, it's my goal to be able to sing this correctly without strain in my own unique voice.

But, I would be content with starting off this song correctly without strain to build up to more challenging techniques.


I am under no disillusion that I can make my voice sound like his. However, I want to be a better singer, and I am determined to reach this magnitude of greatness. The only problem is that I'm broke, although I have a job, and live in a very plain area in Missouri that harbors very few musicians or coaches who can help me achieve these goals. I live about an hour away from St. Louis. If I knew of a coach there that could help me out, that might be a decent start. I could probably even take some exercises and run with those.

Most of my equipment can run my voice back into my headphones, which gives me a good representation of my overall tone, which helps me decipher where I can improve...this has actually helped me improve dramatically in the past week or so.

Thank you in advanced for your services! 
I'm looking forward to hearing your critiques.

Are the files working correctly now?