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  1.    I read somewhere that Vibrato should be above the note and Tremolo refers to when the note drops below the pitch. Usually associated in singing when the voice is a little too week to keep the note steady. A big difference in the sound and feel of a note.

       Another interesting tidbit, a slightly higher intonation gives the vice more excitement and a slightly lower intonation gives more of a somber/lazy feel. Even if the pitch itself is so close that it is otherwise imperceptable to the ears.

      Even though it has been a while since I listened to other Versions of "Wichita Lineman" Your versions sounds awesome. The music and the voice fit nicely and there was no feel of something missing.

      Edit: I must correct myself......... Tremolo is a fluctuation in volume .........  made by the pulsing of the diaphagm instead of a fluctuation in pitch ........

    you're right.  That was what Vannelli was trying to tell us.  The If the note is lower by even a very small amount, it can have an impact on the listener, even if the listener doesn't even know that it is flat.

  2. Thanks Killer!  In his studio Gino Vannelli was using Digital Performer to record us.  And he would go in and show us our vibratos and could demonstrate both ways by just editing the wave.  And we had to agree with him when the crest of vibrato goes above it sounds sweeter.  But that's really subjective.  He said Frank Sinatra did this all the time except for like one album.

    I don't know if my vibrato is consistently doing this on this track, as I think a lot of times it's not.  I didn't check, but I tried.  I try to do this when I practice and it is not easy.  My default is to go up to the pitch and not over it.  I think this is what most singers do by default.  

    The problem with going up to the pitch and not above is if you are accidentally singing just a little flat, it really starts to sound bad. Whereas if you are shooting for a little above, and you go flat you're still good.

  3. Ron - Thanks for your comments.  Yeah this song had a big affect on me too from way back.  And every time I hear it brings back those memories and emotions.  It is a fabulous song.  I don't know why it hits me like that.

    Rob - Thanks a lot for listening and the kind words.  That means a lot to me

    Mdew - Thanks for listening!

  4. I never in a million years would have thought to do this song.   But a producer friend of mine emailed me his version - minus the vocals.  Actually one of my fav's when I was really young so I couldn't resist.

    This is version 2 in which I take the last chorus an octave up.  ( he didn't like that version, so I did another for him.  That one is also on my page )  

    I concentrated on a tip from Gino Vannelli, which he got from Frank Sinatra - Make sure the high part of your vibrato is higher than the pitch you're singing.  A lot of singers keep the high part of their vibrato AT the pitch which doesn't sound quite as good.

    Let me know what you think.

    http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13243503

  5. I think your limitations have got to be more lifestyle at this moment. If you have a family and all that hitting the road and making an outreach effort can be out of reach for some folks. I have a vague memory of a Journey cover that was a bit 'pressed' up there. It wasn't terrible, but you sound more relaxed and like you can use that range more freely.

     

     

    Exactly.  2 kids and my "day job".  And you're right about Don't Stop Believin' it was my first Journey cover and I couldn't sing that high stuff without pressing.  I've been working the last couple years on a more balanced approach.  

     

    How about you - you mentioned you are a drummer.  Is that how you first got into music?  Were you always a singer?

  6. On the cruise I had to sing "here I go again" by whitesnake and "pride" for 80s night, if my placement wanted to work it'd be fine but sometimes it wwouldn't be spot on placement - wise and it would bug me. Especially singing "in the Naaaaaaame of love, whaaaat more in the name of love" all on a high b. That was always a fear of cracking on the b, so instead I'd sing a high e flat to hook in before the high b" I guess all I'm trying to say is that it was very vocally fatiguing and it forced me to reevaluate my technique all the time, and that I CAN'T sing any and every genre of music

     

    Great voice Eugene.  Interesting to hear your experiences in that environment.  Seems like that could be pretty taxing.  

  7. Not bad. Pitch is pretty good - this is not an easy song to keep perfect pitch. There are just a few spots in the earlier chorus's where I heard kind of a "swallowed" tone and losing the brightness. I heard some nasality in maybe one or two spots. Possibly losing the breath connection here and there. The last chorus was more consistent. Just keep on practicing and it will get more consistent. Smiling while you sing will keep the cheeks up which will help the brightness and keep you centered on the vowels.

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