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I think you did a great job! I find it hard to accomplish good enunciation when I'm singing in such a high register, but you seem to manage that just fine! When it comes to timbre, you pull off a nice classic heavy metal sound. Well done!

This is not a cover of Coldplay. It's just a rendition that poured out me this evening. Granted it's not a hit song, but I picked up my guitar and played around and it felt nice. So I started recording myself to see where I would end up. It's hard to keep the voice in check while youre playing guitar so there are some errors and silly things of course, but this is more of a "feeling thing". It's even harder to keep the recording volumes nice so don't play it too loud... but I guess you can't complain about lack of dynamics anymore haha!

ronws Well, the lower parts of my "witch voice" is too gritty/ugly, but it's the easiest way I can do it. But, I think I can ease up on that when I get more comfortable. Because at this point it's too low for me to really being able to "grip" the note. bono1982 Thank you, and I agree with you! I'm looking for a nice song where I can utilise my whole voice!

akaward thanks for the kind words! Yes, I guess that's true, but it will not impress people when I sing live haha! But then again, my typical style of singing is... well, let's call it an acquired taste So I guess that's a moot point. Haha! I enjoy listening to Painkiller, just not singing it I may be (kind of) young, but my taste in music spans both great time-lines and genres. I don't consider Painkiller that old though. Battle Angels is older :O

Hi! I've been asked to sing Painkiller many times, but I find that song boring so I've recorded another song with that type of voice (ignore the verses; I'm just doing whatever) You will find loads of things to criticise because I can't handle that kind of voice good enough yet, but for some reason that type of voice is very hard for me to handle. I lack control (both of pitch and timbre) and I've got problems with enunciation. But I think I will get there! The first seconds of this clip display the skill level I'm trying to reach: While I'm on the subject, this is how Halford sang Painkiller live '91: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftesO60DbVc Anyway, here is me screaming like an angry witch: Also, I've kept the instrumetal kinda low so you can hear my voice better. I remember someone asking for the acapella in my last thread, and I guess it was because the instrumental was a bit too invasive.

Validar Thank you very much! That was my plan; to make it so much different than the original that it got its own "feel".

Marcus Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoyed the contrast in Open arms! And it's nice to hear that my work with mixed vocals is requited! :P

ronws That's more or less the plan. I will build my own studio and just have fun with it! :)

Olem Thanks! Actually, it depends on which grit I want to accomplish; sometimes I use the soft palates and sometimes the false vocal cords (I think I use both when I really "grit it up" haha). Haha! I don't know the difference between curbing and overdrive, but I get the gist of it and I understand where you're coming from. The reason is I wanted a rather big contrast between the verse and the chorus, so it was an artistic choice I've never recorded Painkiller, but knowing that's something of a Rite of passage I ought to, I know ronws Thank you very much! I keep hearing that, and the reason is that I don't want it to become a liability (a job). I've spent most of my life getting a really fancy education so I will focus on that. Singing (well, atristry) is what I lean back to when I need to "get away" Well, I was off pitch, had bad timing, "lost" some notes and failed some timbres. I'm a perfectionist so I get hung up on details quite easily :P

geno Thank you for your kind words! I think my development of this kind of distortion is mostly due to the fact that I never had a teacher instilling me with fear of getting hurt haha! MDEW I'm glad you enjoyed the contrast! I know I comitted a bit of a singing faux pas by singing very airy, but I thought it would be a cool transition! Haha! I don't blame you for not "getting" the other song. It's a miniscule niche, but it's what I enjoy! aravindmadis Haha! You actually made me blush a bit by reading your comment. Thank you! I've had that thought as well, but I think it mostly has to do with their "artistic scope". The people you referred to have/had singing as a profession, and that comes with liabilities which probably prevent them from straying too far so to speak.

Really nice to hear (except that part about you becoming a bit "down")! But yes, I have different mixed voices I use at different times, but none of them are perfect haha!

Hi! I haven't been posting stuff like this in a while... So, I've been practicing on softer, more emotional singing: Journey - Open arms I'm still not really comfortable with my tone; I think it sounds ugly, but I've become better at accepting it. Feel free to tell me what I should work on to get better! For people not knowing/remembering me, I will add something I did just now: Crimson glory - Eternal world I was just outside "feeling it", so it has loads of errors etc, but it displays my main purpose with singing; creating an unique, heavy voice which stylistically blends heavy metal with death metal. It sets the perspective of how bad I am at singing soft and emotionally haha! Please type your input on the mixed voice I was trying out in this clip as well. It's very chesty and gritty, but I feel it it connects quite well with my voice. Does it need to be brighter or is it cool? Also, the phrase "There's no time for prayin'. Feel your soul; it's pleading" (2:22) felt sooo good to sing; acing it like that right off the bat! :D

Hey! First things first, it's easy to hear that you're a good singer with a lot of potential. I just have two questions that has struck me when listening to you: 1.You utilise a distinct legato quite often. Is that part of your developed style or just something that's "been there"? 2. I don't know your voice or your training regimen, but what would you say if I told you that it sounds like you're bridging too early?

Nice attention to detail! Yes, I use that onset quite often because I find it's much easier to find the correct pitch. I'm well-aware that I might over-use it haha! At this stage I can't add much legato because the different type of voices is so far from each other to me that I can't connect them in that manner... yet! Thanks! Good post!

Owen Korzec, great post! I totally get your point, and I will start question more things about my singing to keep developing on my own. Thanks! :)

Jens, I totally understand you now; the high note is my "money shot". Weird I haven't thought about it before. Thank you very much! Keith yeah! Singing it clean is a bit easier actually. Singing it really rough is also easier because you can use the clean version and add some grit to create the illusion of something really powerful. This intermediate state, like in this clip, is harder because you really have to have power, not use any illusions.

Jens, great comment! Feels like you're onto something. Do you mean I should lighten the C5 and D5? And what does "bring in the power slightly higher" mean? Seth, haha yeah, the only reason I chose that phrase is because the melody is hard (good). Maybe you're right, and if that's the case it's nice! Thanks! Keith, haha thanks, but I can't help that I want to keep on developing my singing :)

Hm! You've left me with a lot to think about. Interesting! :)

Hm, ok! I think I understand. Thanks :)

Hm! A little bith of both I think. Grit is my modus operandi, but it's going away slowly but steadily. That's not part of my mixed voice though, but the notes that are require a lot of support. I don't feel like I'm running out of wind at "fear" though, but I probably am a bit of worn out Thanks, Owen!

Hey! I've been practicing my mixed vocals. Especially one kind of semi-smooth mixed vocals. I can do some smooth mixed vocals for the ladies and some rough mixed vocals a la Halford for the metalheads, but the in-between is pretty darn hard as you'll hear. I've been practicing on a phrase from My heart will go on, but I've transposed it like 4 steps up to really make it awfully hard and weird (my passagio). I can't seem to make it sound like one big voice; you can really hear my three types of vocal stages, and they're not that great by themselves either I'm afraid. Any tips?

Haha! Adoney, I really like you and your singing. You're the metal king around here; no question (seen more of your clips etc) I'm intrigued by orrendo canto though! Never heard of that, and all that text analog copied don't say me much. You say you had problem with mixed vocals and turned to orrendo canto. I'm having trouble with it myself. You have much lower voice than me, but is "for your life" an example of O.C or is it proper "head voice" (I can't remember the correct term haha)? Or is "galloping" in "galloping hard on the plains" an example of O.C?

Thanks, Owen! Yes, the mic is "budget" so to say. ronws, good points! I will try to do a more z-sound instead, and I was totally oblivous to my j-sounds, but I will look into that as well. Thank you! :)

http://www78.zippyshare.com/v/71732801/file.html This is me singing this song for the first time. One take, no particular warm-up (that's why my higher notes are so clean. Too clean and "sissy" if you ask me, but it's too risky to push it). Just me plugging in the mic and trying the song out. I believe this will display my inherent flaws more clearly, and perhaps you could help me pin-point them (aside from forgetting the lyrics and just mumbling haha)! Now, I hear two distinct flaws by my own: 1. My sense of timing is as well-developed as a war-torn African country. 2. My S-sounds are just stupid/lazy. (3. I'm really bad at regulating the distance between me and mic to avoid "clips") If you can tell me something more, I'd be happy! I'm afraid I'm a bit too accustomed to my own voice to hear every flaw.

What berniemcpeak says is true, and I will try to take another approach I've "bolded" the key parts if you dislike reading! Haha! Yes, this song is way too hard for you. You need to practice on something much simpler. There are A LOT of subtleties to singing that beginners and non-singers don't grasp. Hell, there are things even the most accomplished vocalists are missing. My point is, there's just too much happening in this song for you; you're unable to wrap your head around it, and you need to really understand the melody to sing well. I mean, how can someone do something they don't understand? Sure, Lady Luck might be on one's side at times, but she's an erratic lady! Haha! I don't know if this will help you, but if I'm able to DRAW the melody I know I'm ready to start sing it! I don't actually draw any melodies, but if someone (for some reason) asked me to, I could. I visualise melodies as a line travelling to the right, and a high note means the line will travel upwards a bit (and a lower note mean a travel downwards). I even incorporate techniques to my "canvas", but that's not really relevant here. My point is, it's not an exercise in drawing but and exercise in understanding the notes and their relationships between each other. If you can't hear/understand that, let's say, a single syllable contains two notes and how far from each other they are, you can't sing it! You'll probably end up singing a single not somewhere between those two before-mentioned notes or something! You need to really LISTEN to the singing you'd like to emulate, and sadly (I don't mean to be rude), but I don't think you can hear what you need to hear in complex songs like James Arthur's rendition of Wrecking ball just yet. You will just hear it and think something along the lines of "Wow! That sounds so great!", but having a hard time pinpointing exactly what makes it sound so great.... even less, mentally draw how the melody looks like correctly. I've only heard his rendition on a German radiostation, and his performance contains LOADS of 1/32 notes (in some wails even 1/64 notes). Well, let's come down to earth a bit... Of course you don't need to master every 1/32 note to be a functional vocalist! Haha! I'm just pointing out the complexity of some vocals, which is very easy to miss and misinterpret. To listen and understand vocals is not easy, but once you can listen and understand it is soo much easier to learn it. It's like having instructions to something but being unable to read. Once you learn how to read properly you'll understand the instructions and is able to carry out whatever the instruction is for! When you've figured out the melody, start out slowly! As a guitarist I'm sure you'll understand this tip! This is of course only my view of things, but the meaning of my post (i.e really understanding the melody) is a crucial point! It's just a matter of whims and fancies how you choose to approach it, and the above is just mine, which might be a good starting-point