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Hi Simon, I think you actually got a good voice for hard rock and metal, but you sound very constrained/chocked up in this song, especially in the higher notes. Additionally, because of the way you are singing, you are having pitch problems on the high notes. If I may humbly suggest you that if you are really passionate about music and singing, and you seem like you are, consider learning and practicing vocal techniques with either a good vocal coach or a singing method. Keep on rocking!

13 hours ago, EisaCurry said:

I think my appoggio on the "u" vowel is underdeveloped, which is why i lose energy past G4.

May I humbly suggest you to post vocalizes or sirens of other vowels (besides "u") too, and even maybe pieces of songs you might be having trouble with. Cheers

Hi EisaCurry, is the link up again? I couldn't find it. Without hearing you, I could say that you seem to be struggling with your bridge/passaggio. May I ask if you have been training with a vocal coach or singing method? If you are in fact stuck at your bridge, you may have to work on the notes between D4-G4 making them the foundation for the higher notes, and most importantly the passaggio notes, where you need to do some modifications (e.g. vowel modifications, resonance shifts, etc) in order to go through your passaggio.

Great timbre Aravind! As I never heard this song before, I went to Youtube to check it out, and I congratulate you on this cover my friend. You came such a long way with your voice training too buddy, and you even got rid completely of the nasality/cartoonish voice. I also agree with Ronws regarding your articulation and no accent. Great job! 

On July 17, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Felipe Carvalho said:

Great song that has been on my to-do list for a while, hope you like it, let me know how it sounds if you can.

https://app.box.com/s/63y1ea0bnv3gtxrlicvdbyitu2u56pua

Thanks in advance!!

Felipe

You are the Big Kahuna Felipe! That was freaking A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.! I could barely recognize your tone/voice in only a few spots, and the distortion was really cool too. I really liked it! Congrats 

18 minutes ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said:

So I have the vocal range and voice for Travis and Stereophonics.

But again I must work on pitch, which seams quite difficult and complicated to me

Yeah! You got a nice pleasant voice. If you are really passionate about singing and want to get serious with it, I think you should get a vocal coach, and/or take classes over the internet, or get a good vocal program, and work hard. Cheers

Hi 2 cats, you got a nice voice man. But I agree with Ronws about being off pitch throughout the song. You may have to work on your pitch to improve it, and also you may be having trouble to hear yourself while recording. Cheers

6 hours ago, aravindmadis said:

Very nice.. You sound very close tonally to Joe Elliot.  I guess that helps in sounding very good.  Your bridging has improved a great deal.  This sound it sounds very smooth for the most parts.  So keep doing the good work my friend.  You have come a long way....  BTW, Joe Elliot's voice also has a whiny quality which I love  

This kind of singing is in your sweet spot and you may want to pick songs like this(unless of course you want to experiment and improve in which case the more diversity the better!)

Thank you so much for the review my friend. Your words really mean a lot to me. I wish I had more time to work on my singing, as my improvements would be more consistent.

 I think this is actually my style, or thing, because  this is how I like to sing the most. But as I said to Ronws, I am usually very concerned of sounding too whiny. I feel this timbre/tone works best for high-pitched slow songs, but I'm trying to use it on more upbeat rock songs too. Hopefully I'll post something new soon. Cheers

10 hours ago, ronws said:

Just stay with the whiny brat all the way through. Although, I think for humor's sake, you could ape Rick Allen, the drummer and his intro on another DL hit. It is him with the fake german accent saying "unter glieben glauben globen." And by the way, that phrase doesn't mean anything, it was his way of counting in the beat of the song.

Thanks Ronws. I think I watched an interview with them a long time ago, where they mentioned the "unter glieben glauben globen". This part was really funny, and the interview was very educating too. I remember Joe saying that one time they were recording in Vancouver, and down the hall, David Coverdale was also recording his album in another studio room. Joe said that it was very tiring and frustrating for him to record that album, but what it made it worse was running into DC every day and he would say that had just nailed another song. He said he felt really bad...LOL

15 hours ago, ronws said:

Beg.

You sounded more strong and sure in the second and later repeats of chorus. I think the first one, you were trying to add meat and it was a bit shaky, like you were still looking for your line in the song. The later parts, I know you were going lighter but it worked better. And before you worry too much about how close you might achieve Joe's tonality, please remember that a really huge part of his sound, especially on this album, was the mixing and recording acumen of engineers like Robert "Mutt" Lange and Bob Rock and other engineers influenced by the lush sound they produced.  Lead vocals were often double and triple tracked the old fashioned way. Reverbs and chorus rack units. It made his voice sound bigger than it is. Wet and splashy drums, fuzzy bass, chorused guitar, even in a band that had two guitars.

Then some more on the BV from the other band members, like Phil and Steve, who could also sing.

This song is a test of a singer's mettle in going in and around the passagio because that is where the chorus is. It's almost as if the high "screams" are easier to do because they are just noises, rather than articulated lyrics. So, bravo for having the huevos to try this song.

I agree, this song suits your voice and vice versa. I think you will find it easier if you pick a mode for your voice and use it all the way through.

Pleeeeaaaase!

Hi Ronws, thank you so much for your review, it really means a lot to me.

I agree with you about the great magnitude of effects involved in this record, not only the vocals. I discovered this song a few weeks ago, and even checked some covers on the web out before  decided to give it a try. I honestly don't try to match Joe's timbre, as I think my voice, or the way I sing has a lot in common with him, or at least is a good match for Def Lep songs, in general. My main concern in this song was the highest parts (the last "can't you see" before chorus and the choruses). I am still not happy with either one, but I think it is passable, and I know I can improve it tremendously with a bit more practice. To be honest with you, I recorded the song "reading" the lyrics on the karaoke track, as I didn't know them by heart. 

My main concern regarding my sound/timbre/style is not to sound too whiny, as I like to sing with this cry a lot. I admit that I would rather sing with this cry than really strong with a lot of meat, like Bruce Dickinson for instance. Nothing against his style, but I like my voice better as a whiny brat. LOL

What do you mean by picking a mode to sing the entire song through?

Thanks again, Cheers

I thought you sounded really good Ellise! I know that falsetto is (or should be) a stylistic choice in singing, and I have no idea if that was how you approached it in the "all", but if I may humbly suggest you to variate the way you sing that part. Maybe you use the falsetto in the beginning to show vulnerability, and belt it right before the solo or bridge, and belt it again when you come back from the pause, increasing the power and drama in the song/performance. Keep them coming

Hi Musikman, no doubt you are very talented musician and singer, and the other musicians seem to be very skilled too. I thought the song was really tight and punchy, had a great energy, and the vocals were amazing. But to me it sounded almost like a medley of 3-4 different songs because of all the changes in the beat. It is just a personal taste thing, and it is probably due to me being relatively narrow minded regarding other rock styles and bands, but I felt those changes sounded a bit awkward. Keep rocking, man!

Hi Ellise, another example of great singing. I never heard the first song, but I liked it in your voice. As I mentioned before, you have a beautiful and soulful voice and great technique. I am no vocal coach or even an accomplished singer, but if I may humbly suggest you only 2 things: 1) when you sing the "only girl in the world" you could try to break into falsetto but only in the syllables that are on the highest pitch for effect and show vulnerability. I think it must be way harder to do that than to keep it in one full voice, as you did, but could prove very effective as a tool in your bag; 2) as you are doing videos, you should try to interact more with the camera. You are such a beautiful girl with an amazing voice. I know it is hard to do it because we get so focused into the technique, pitch, rhythm, and expression, but I think it will pay off ahead. Sorry I have no technical advices to make it better, as it is sounding really good already. Cheers!

C'mon guys! Please, don't make me beg for attention... 

52 minutes ago, Felipe Carvalho said:

I didn't find anything wrong about the phrasing man, to me it seems you are doing it in a rather good way for the song. Its those very high points of the melody that take a bit away, try to think of changing your voice, go very bright on them, even nasal, its too high to make any difference and will help making it more free.

Yeah. I got what you are saying Felipe. The chorus is my weakest link. Even though it is a B4 (if I'm not mistaken) it is really hard for me to do it properly. I actually feel that I'm about to break into falsetto sometimes. Funny that it gets so much easier if I'm just practicing the chorus. But when I start singing the song it is just too many things going on, and I lose focus. I think it also has a lot to do with breath management and vowels. But I'm sure I will get there eventually.

52 minutes ago, Felipe Carvalho said:

I asked about the breath because it seems to me (and this is thinking of all your songs, both what is working and what is not), that you often know and do the positions you need to do, but you end up a bit short on energy, or, some instabilities appear as if you had very, very little margin for error. Usually this is related to breath support and how you organize it. If you feel its worthwhile hit me on skype sometime and lets check what you are doing with more detail. skype name is felipevoxcarvalho

I think breath management and vowels are at the moment the two most important things I really need to start to work on to improve my singing. These and basically start practicing at least 2-3 times a week, but this last year has been very difficult to find the time. I will definitely try to get a hold of you for help man. Thanks again Felipe, I really appreciate it.

5 hours ago, Gsoul82 said:

Finally, I am one of the first

 

You really sounded right at home on this one. Is it one of your favorites?

Blended right in. Great cover.

Hi Gsoul, thanks for being one of the first to check it out, man! I'm glad you liked it! I don't know why, but I really felt at ease with this song, even though I learned it just a couple of weeks ago. I really felt my voice was a great match for the song, even though it still needs some work, especially in that last phrase of the pre-chorus and during the chorus itself, when it goes higher after heartache and heartbreak. But I humbly feel that this has been one of my best covers so far. So, this is one of my favorites now! lol Cheers!

6 hours ago, Collin571 said:

Tight!  Good flow I feel like at some parts you could've broke through the tension with some distortion and a higher intensity.  I think a higher intensity will help you make this song sound edgier.  Are you going as loud as you can on this or are you holding back some?

Thanks Collin. I felt it was easier to keep the flow and beat of this one better than the A-Ha song. I have been trying to stay away from distortion as much as I can until I am able to use it in a healthy way. I actually thought of using some distortion in the high parts of the chorus to make it thicker, but ended up focusing on singing the right notes the best I could lol. I am going as loud as I can at the moment in the chorus. But I know I could go much louder once I get strong enough to add more "meat", as I've been singing the chorus with a lighter approach. Thanks again man!

Hi guys, today I had some spare time and recorded another Def Leppard song: Bringing on a Heartbreak. Please leave your comments, the good, the bad, an the worst. I hope you guys enjoy it. Cheers

https://app.box.com/s/bc96apne2x4cifsdy8ey1uzszk3rb2ft

Great job Jeremy! I think your timbre really suits this song. I have to agree with Musikman regarding some slightly off pitch areas, but overall it sounded good. It is a fun song to sing. I believe that if you work a bit more focusing on the pitch and resonance in the high parts, you should add this one to your set list. Keep them coming!

13 hours ago, Felipe Carvalho said:

I think its sounding very good on most of it gnee. Really tight on the phrasing this one, the verses are sounding really good and natural. The only thing you need to pay some attention here are those higher notes on the chorus... I would find a different voice to do that you know, don´t try to really sing it so much...

 

How much attention have you given to your breathing so far man?

Not so much, to be honest, Felipe.  That could be the main reason I'm almost singing in staccato during the chorus...

After I posted it, I got to listen the recording many times, and I found I was so off pitch in the first high part, and the chorus sounded so choppy. I feel my timbre sounds good more naturally in this song, especially in the 2nd half. So, I decided to invest some time on doing more Def Leppard covers...

What would you suggest regarding the voice on the chorus? Besides keeping it in one breath...

Thanks again for your review and tips,man.

13 hours ago, Gsoul82 said:

Seems like a number of people beat me to this one as well. The main thing I would've said is take it easier, just as Felipe mentioned, "oversinging". You end up expending unnecessary energy.

Hey Gsoul, thanks for checking this out, and most importantly for the tip. Cheers

Welcome to the forum Matthew. I believe this should go into Review my Singing section, which is a paid service. I think you can easily figure it out the best plan for your needs. Cheers

Hi Cody, welcome to the forum. I think you sound good overall. In the beginning, you sounded too heady and nasal for my taste (personal opinion), but when you start singing with more "pressure" it gets so much better. If I may humbly suggest you to check the gain levels on your microphone because the sound was distorting a bit when you started to get loud. I also missed some tasty effects on your voice, such as EQ, compression and reverb. Good job. Cheers

12 hours ago, Collin571 said:

'you could have a change of' I like the voice it starts in but heart breaks the character of the voice in that moment so maybe try to reel it back from heart to hurt or make the ah more like the ah when starting arr like a pirate on that pitch.  Your ns and ds are very nasally, I think it has more to do with placement than anything.  Maybe try approaching those consonants softer and see what changes in sound occur.  At 2:05 your voice becomes more pronounced sounds like your clenching your abdominals and really delivering the air at a more intense pace.  That voice needs to blend better with your voice when you're relaxed.  That's sort of what I'm talking about with layered voice, blending the relaxed coordinations with the intense ones in terms of entire body involvement especially lower back muscles and abdominal ones.  Pay some attention to your lower back muscles when you sing how they tense up and clinch when holding back an intense flow or taking a deep breath. 

Hi Collin, thanks again for another review man. I am not sure I noticed the change in the beginning, but I will listen the song again paying more attention. To be fair, I only noticed the majority of flaws a few days later, especially thanks to these reviews. I think it takes me several listening sections to pick up all the mistakes, because I just miss them when mixing (with the exception of the major ones OFC).

Regarding the nasality, I was actually going for that sound by trying to twang a lot on the lower notes. I think I was kind of trying to emulate the original singer a little bit, as I feel my timbre sounds like his in some songs.  Regarding the change of quality in the voice, I have to agree with you, and I will listen again to check that. I think, if I remember correctly, in the first rise of the melody I started belting. The funny thing is, when the melody rose again at the "You could have a change of heart...", I changed again the quality to a more "mixed voice" approach.

Regarding my support, I think it is coming its way, because I am very conscious of my lower back and ribs muscles when I'm singing, even though I don't usually push as hard as I should.

Thanks again for the tips man. Cheers

10 hours ago, Collin571 said:

for some reason when I heard your voice I instantly thought of the opening of this song

sounds to me like your voice is very inflated, I think you could benefit from a tighter flow of air stemming from your abdominal muscles.  I like your voice though I think it's more layered than it needs to be so more vowel mod, shaping and support variance will help you out in uncovering your best sound.  I want to hear you sing more songs in a variety of genres soon!

Hi Collin, thank you so much for stopping by and giving it a listen. Do you mean the Intro when there is only the vocals and some sort of synths/strings? 

What do you mean by "inflated"? To much effects or doubling? Also, what do you mean by "layered"?

Regarding the support, I totally agree with you. I am still working on it, and when I get it right, it is a huge difference.

In my defense, I have been trying to cover different genres. I like hard rock (especially 80s), and lately I have covered so far Bonnie Raitt (I can't make you love me), Five for Fighting (Superman - It's not easy), A-ha (Hunting high and low), and Def Leppard (When love and hate collide). All ballads...lol. BTW, have you checked those? I better post some hard rock soon, or else my "soft side" might take over, as I've been thinking of covering Please Forgive Me (Bryan Adams),