Gneetapp

You betcha Felipe! Thanks again man!

Hi Aravind, I thought it sounded good throughout the song. But I have to agree with Denis regarding the Bridge, where I feel you changed the mood you set in the rest of the song, by going, perhaps, to strong, almost hard Rock/Heavy Metal style. Overall, I liked it. Also, I think you did an awesome job dialing down the "cartoonish voice", almost eliminating it completely. Keep them coming friend!

Hi MDEW, I agree with you man. The thing is, I am a little lazy to record the backing track on a different key...lol. So, I just practice in the original key of the backing track. Cheers

On June 25, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Felipe Carvalho said:

Hi gnee!

I think there are many things working well, and some very simple mistakes that are taking away quality.

- You are oversinging it. Listen to the original and you will notice there are a lot more pauses, right on the begining, "Here"... "I AM"... , specially on I Am, don't sustain so much. This breakes the rhythm flow of the song.

- Your phrasing is in odds with the beat. Listen to the pattern of the snare on the song, right from the start. You will notice there is an accent first on the downbeat, and then the snare accents on the upbeat. Pretty much the whole song goes by this idea. On "I AM" you are close to it, but the accent didnt work so well, when you are on "SHE is sound". You are already drifting. Its a 4/4 but its irregular, common kind of irregular, but still irregular.

These two little things make a huge difference, really!

Then the points of the higher areas. When you do "high" the Ah is sounding good, perhaps relax more if you can. The higher phrases are on the midway between going into head voice, and belting, and that's the problem. Either you open it and blast it out, or, round more the vowels into UH and use a half volume. You went open with a half volume, that's just too hard and really unnecessary.

Open as you did and shout it, and you will go on the same direction of what he did. Or round more and still go strong. Whatever you do don't let the energy fall back from what you are doing on the lower area, go stronger.

Not oversinging the lows will also help on giving you more headroom for these notes.

Hi Felipe, thank you so much for stopping by and giving a listen. I agree with you regarding the beat. Even though I made a great progress becoming able to sing the melody of the song, I still suffer with the rhythm, and usually fall behind. I think I just need to practice more singing with the original, instead of a backing track.

You are right, I noticed that because where the song sits, I have two ways of singing it, and usually go stronger than lighter, but in this version I think I got stuck in the middle of the way, and it sounds weird. Another thing that just shocked me is that I recorded and did all the mixing using headphones, and I just listened the recording for the 1st time on my computer speakers, and I thought I sounded really weird...lol

As I really like this song I will try to gather all the tips you guys gave me and improve this cover. BTW, have you had a chance of checking my other cover (When Love and Hate Collide - Def Leppard)? Thank you again.

On June 25, 2016 at 10:44 PM, ronws said:

Sounds like a folk version when you sing it. You just have to let go of the sound of Morten in your head. It's okay if you don't sound like him. I know, because I sometimes trip myself up with the original singer's voice in my head. Let it go and do the song as yourself.

OMG Rowns, I agree with you 100%! I can't believe how different it sounds from my headphones to the speakers! I just listened it on my speakers, and I am shocked! As I really love singing this song, I will definitely try it again. Thank you so much for checking it out. Cheers

19 hours ago, Gsoul82 said:

I'd never seen a post from you before o:

This is a momentous occasion!

I'm a little late to the party though. MDEW already covered what I had to say.

Hi Gsoul, thanks for stopping by man! Even though this is not my first post in the review section, I think it has been a while since I last posted something. I believe it was my attempt to "I can't make you love me (by Bonnie Raitt). I even tried both versions: in the original key and one octave lower, just for kicks... I am planning on trying it again for the challenge. BTW, have you checked my other last cover? Hunting High and Low (A-Ha) 

Cheers

On June 25, 2016 at 10:48 PM, ronws said:

Actually, following Felipe's mixing advice helps, as far as getting the sound. Most people don't realize how much doubling and delay Robert "Mutt" Lange used on Joe for the Pyromania album. 

MDEW offers good advice. I did something similar with a Journey song. Sang it a whole step higher for a while to force myself to break with dichotomy of "head voice" and "chest voice." The sooner I got into one voice, the easier it was to drop back down to the original key and sing it acceptably ,though I would not post because, oddly enough, I do not sound like Steve Perry. And there would be too much comparison. Even I would be guilty of that. I am human, after all.

Thanks a lot for stopping by Ronws. I will definitely try to sing it 1 step higher and see how it goes. I can totally relate to what you said about not sounding like the original singer. Funny enough, I don't struggle with that anymore. Even though my voice changes a little bit depending on the song/singer, but I always sound like myself, which I'm really OK with it. Cheers

9 hours ago, Jeremy Mohler said:

Nice job Gneetap, I don't have much constructive criticism as your technique seems to be better than mine (especially for the high notes) but I think that MDEW's advice of raising it a step higher to give it more punch is solid.   I liked the chorus effect you put on for the chorus.  

Thank you so much for stopping by and giving a listen Jeremy. I might try practicing this song one half step higher as you guys have suggested. So it should feel easier when I sing it in the right key afterwards. Did you really like the effect?! I got that when I was playing with copies of the main vocal panned L and R. But I tried something Felipe suggested in another thread about making a copy and dragging it down to create a delay effect. I didn't like the way it sounded because it was too slapjack delay. So, instead of creating a wider offset between the original and the copies, I just decreased it to create a thicker sound. I think I did that in several parts of the song, but it really stood out in the chorus, maybe because of the high notes and the backing vocals on the backtrack. In this song I used only EQ, Compressor, Delay and Reverb, as fx. Cheers

Thanks again MDEW. I felt this one was way harder to sing than the A-Ha's song, maybe because it has higher notes or the intention of power ballad. I really got to start practicing again, because I was struggling to keep the folds adducted (?) during the choruses, which I think made my pitch suffer a bit. I always ask for opinions and tips to improve. Cheers

Thank you so much for stopping by and giving a listen MDEW. I think it sounds odd at some parts, maybe because I didn't warm up before, and was not able to keep in one voice. So, to minimize the problem, I had to change volume throughout the song. Thanks again

Hi guys, as I got some free time yesterday I decided to record this power ballad by Def Leppard. I would appreciate it if you could tell me what you think and also tips to improve it. Keep on Rocking.

Hi guys, yesterday I had some free time, so I just recorded this one for practice. Please let me know what you all think and also give me some pointers to improve it. Cheers

8 hours ago, MDEW said:

OK, this is it.......... You will have to put up with the out of tune guitar until someone buys me an expensive one. Capo on the 5th fret doesn't help things. Cowboy chords, Folk Style.

I am Keeping this microphone.

Very nice cowboy version MDEW! You and Ed-Win really made this song yours! While I was listening to your version I was wondering how this song would sound as an Ukulele  version... Cheers

12 hours ago, Ed-Win said:

Finally!

I haven't been active for a while, but I'm happy to be back with this song. The challenge last year
(when the song was not chosen), inspired me to do a recording back then.

Since I wanted to practice my passagio, I chose the Version by George Michael. I found it quite challenging.
Tell me what you think.

 

Great job Ed-Win! Really cool version man!

1 hour ago, Simon Öhlund said:

Yes i dont really care if it sounds good because im gonna perform it live on friday. I just enjoy being on stage. Im not out to be a perfect singer. I know i sound good so.

Hi Simon, you seem to really enjoy performing man, that is a good thing because it can be used to fuel you while you are training/practicing to be the best you can be. I really just don't get why posting a song in the review section and ask what people think is good or bad if you don't care. Unless you were expecting only praises and got some constructive criticism instead, and couldn't handle it. If this is the case, perhaps you should try to change this mindset and preconceptions about how your vocals sound, because it will hinder your progress as a vocalist. Good performance Friday! Cheers

On June 7, 2016 at 3:46 PM, muffinhead said:

I had a pretty big breakthrough today. I managed to refine my head voice much more, and it now sounds better than acceptable (in my opinion). There are still issues with the bridging, but I'm sure additional practice will smooth out those problems. 

Here are some sirens I did using the track and release onset on the bottom and wind and release on the top. 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s14ZQaM0lF5a

 

Hi muffinhead, congrats on your progress man! I think that in order to take the most out of the sirens you should try not to rush through them, especially at the passagio, so you are not avoiding the area, and build the muscle memory of the coordination needed. Good job

Hi poisonivy, welcome to the forum. You have a lovely voice, and you sound good. However, may I humbly suggest you to record something with an instrumental track or a karaoke/backing track? This way it would be easier to evaluate other aspects of your voice. Cheers

13 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

Hello

Tough song to sing for a baritone. Tell me what you think?

I know it does'nt sound 100 % perfect

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1OjoI9u9sTi

Hi Simon, I am sorry man, but I had such a hard time trying to listen to you. The overall volume is really low. Could you please try to improve it? Thanks

Great job Mivke! Really soulful singing! I felt it was just a bit behind the beat on the chorus, like relaxed. But it could be just me. Congrats bro!

Wow! Great job Jeremy! I really liked your tone and the rasp throughout the song. Even though it seemed you strained a bit in a couple of spots, I think it didn't impact the song negatively. Cheers!

Nice going MDEW! I think You did such a great job on this song! I don't think it was the new microphone my friend, but your improved technique that made a difference. I also liked the lead guitar doing the melodies. Keep'em coming

4 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

I deleted the link and now i quit singing. I have tried for over a year to become a better singer. I have tried to improve tone quality,mixed voice and belting. I have always thought i sounded good in my ears but you know sometimes the mind can trick you into thinking you are good when on the outside you are not. Music is not just for me and i have come to realize that. I have had alot of fun on this journey of training rock vocals but this is not just for me and i think it is good that i have come to realize that. I wish you all good vocalists a good future. But i failed so now i will get back into gaming.Bye

WTF?!?!

I'm in! It would give me a chance to work a bit more on this song, and improve on my first attempt.

Hi MDew, I thought you've come a long way developing your sound man. I liked your tone throughout the song, except at the bridge, where it sounds like you lost focus. I think you are on the right track with your voice, and with more practice you'll make this song sound really good. I kind of agree with some folks here who say that you might benefit of using support in a better way, so you would be able to stabilize the voice. Even though I don't think that you will sound beefy with more engaged support, as I believe it is just a matter of vocal placement, but I think JonJon made an interesting suggestion of trying to sing/emulate Dickinson or Dio to get a different sound. I think it would be safe and beneficial to you to experiment, as you already know you should not yell to achieve these types of sound. Cheers

Yeah! Your timbre is really good for this song JonJon! I liked it. I can totally relate to you regarding the high pitch passages man. But it takes good technique and good practice to even things out. Good sound.