Hello YouCanSingAnything, Thank you very much for the compliments regarding my voice. I will try today the advice you gave me, although I am already crying/moaning and if I would apply more of this I would probably constrict? And I fully understand the sounds that you show me in the clips, although I get very unsuccessful by imitating other singers. BUT! Is it possible that I may need to twang more to easier get the "curbing sound"? I will experiment with my own invented exercise today. First sing "Ee" in Neutral, than sing "Ee" with twang, than sing "Ee" with twang and add the cry. Do you think this could help me find the curbing/thicker fold mechanism? Here is an example of what I mean what I wanna try to work on. Is it safe? And according to this sample do I do "Neutral to Neutral with twang to Curbing"? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1zAZvZIcsnd thanks for all the help and information!! Much appreciated.