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I think you did well and I also wanted say it was good that you arranged the melody line for yourself. I know you don't sound like Paul Rogers and I would not expect you to. Oddly enough, I could hear a bit of Paul Stanley in your voice on this one. Which I thought was cool.

MDEW got it.

"Ya'll damn sure know what I mean."

No, brown did not sing through the nose, he just had a thick sound.

Well, dude, I hear Seal in your voice, even if you cannot. Sorry, you'll just have to live with having a beautiful and soulful tone, something others would give their right arms to have.

Actually, the middle part sounds more like Page, especially from the early years, with the monster riffs, like from "Four Sticks" and "Bron'y Aur Stomp."

The b thing, that is either an arrangement issue or more likely a plug-in mixing thingy. Did you use a de-esser set on "stun"? Dial that back a bit to get some b back into it.

I was not hearing much Coverdale sound. More like a vocal cross between .38 Special and Molly Hatchet, which is a good thing, by the way.

I find this to be quintessential Coverdale.

I cannot think of thing wrong with it and I like your feel. The melancholy sound of your voice, this literally sounded like Seal had covered it. This is THE way to cover a song.

For MDEW, this is a huge pop song that was everywhere on the radio and got synchro-licensed in a bunch of shows, as well.

I have nothing to add but that was an awesome review. Granted you are good singer, Java, but kudos to G for giving the kind of help you are actually looking for.

I liked it a lot. The whole thing had that 70's r&b feel, like Ashford and Simpson. I think you could do a bunch of this and not be wrong, ever. 

I like the feeling of this song, and I can hear that is you in full control of your voice, totally in your element. Like Brian McKnight with a wider range. And who knows, maybe you have a sense of humor like R Kelly.

On 1/12/2016 at 0:06 AM, aravindmadis said:

 

Hi Gneetapp.  I am trying to get the chorus to sound more meaty.  I realize as I get better with mixing, some of the really awesome sounding vocals have a lot to do with how they are mixed and whether they are double tracked.. So whether I can improve on my weight in the range, I am not sure !

That is why the production credits on a recording are as important as the band members. There is no professional recording that is just straight to file without editing and effects.

John Lennon did not like the sound of his own voice, He asked Martin and others to do anything even (the famous quote) "put some ketchup on it."

Others felt he had such a natural rock voice because it was not pretty and polished like others.

And others, like Axl Rose, will record one line at a time, a number of takes, and then comp(osite) the final vocal track.

It was eerie how close that was to the original. Are you sure you are not related?

Seriously, you should do more of this stuff. Campy glam rock. In fact, I bet you could do a more original cover of "Come On feel the Noise" originally recorded by Slade, a similar band, but better than they did it and more honorable than that of Quiet Riot, though that song and "Metal Health" did make them the first Heavy Metal band to get to number one.

Bravo, Jeremy.

You posted twice so we will like it more.

I am not sure how to change your tonality. The problem with covering this song or anything else by Bruce and the boys is that he is so iconic a singer that people are powerless to stop from comparing. Even me. I could sing anything in the IM catalog but I do not sound like Bruce and don't care if I don't But I don't cover and present because many, including myself, will compare. And it is not a matter of being lazy or that I don't "want to put in the work" to sound like Bruce. I love his voice, his singing, his style of bravado and confidence. I just don't need to sound like him, for whatever reason.

So, your pitch was good and the timing did not seem like an issue to me. Sometimes, you are better off totally changing the song. Fellow member Jonathon took IM's "Wasted Years" and changed it to one acoustical guitar and a slow, melancholy ballad that was very much how Chris Cornell might do it. This was especially helped by the fact that Jonathon already naturally sounds like Cornell in whatever he does.

I like what you did here but I cannot fix your unique tone. I go through this thing, myself. I can cover some songs by someone else and do quite well, but not the entire catalog. For example, people liked my cover of Judas Priest's cover of "Diamonds and Rust" but that doesn't mean they will like me singing a bunch of other JP songs, nor am I interested in doing so.

And I think that is the way it is with a lot of people. For example, you might fair better in applause if you covered IM's "Fear of the Dark." Not because it is lower in the range and I think you are most definitely tenor. But because I think that song and your voice would be a closer match for what your tone does.

Rosa, you can record on anything and we will take that into account as best as possible. There are times when some of our mods, possessing very good recording equipment will record something quick on their phone. Even the older, cheapie flip phones will record sound files.

In fact, good singing always trumps equipment.

25 minutes ago, JonJon said:

nice.

So for all us newbs, thats all M1, correct?

actually, LemM1(y).

And what performance? Someone would have to hear you in order to make a judgement. And getting a review here requires a membership. There are button links all over for that.

Also, your link requires downloading the file. You need to put it on a file sharing site like box dot com or soundcloud so that members can link to a player page.

Also, for reviews in the review section, you need to have a membership that includes having your singing reviewed. You will find the information you need in the orientation you received when starting your account.

In addition, I chose the "Beaker" pic for your avatar and then modified it by doing different things with the crop window. You can change to another image, as you may wish, by clicking on the avatar pic in your profile page. It is helpful to have a pic other than the generic silhouette given when you start the account. It can be anything, maybe representative of you or something you like.

This thread shall be moved to the review section, henceforth and forever.

2 hours ago, ellise k said:

I enjoyed listening to your voice and its great for only just 5 lessons and you can only improve from here. just keep up the great work and always warm your voice up before you sing and you will see a lot of improvement. 

you look very comfortable being on a stage which is great

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Good stuff, I liked it.

And this thread should be in the section for 4 Pillars students' progress and I shall move it for you.

I like what you are doing and I did something similar to that working on a cover of "Close My Eyes Forever," the duet  between Ozzy Osbourne and Lita Ford.

I liked it. The timing was a little funny here and there but, yeah, you could do this on an album.

Actually, Bob would do pretty well as God in the next "Oh, God" movie, especially if it was a musical.

Yes, Robert, those are all good qualifications and to reply to Jens, I would say that you are one of the few that has the requirements I listed that might be required. College training, respect of peers and voice pros (not just other singers but docs who rehab others), and a few other assorted accoutrement.

Of course, as an expert, you will find others questioning your expertise and wisdom. I could be considered an expert in my own field, which does not stop someone barely able to operate a light switch from thinking they are equal in understanding and skill and the sheer weight of experience I have. Nor do I think that my qualifications mean that I know everything. I just know more than any number of people who have not had my experience, study, licensing, etc.

Well, Tristan, you said it yourself. If someone posted here, he must be needing critique or help. Therefore, if someone posts here, you have to hunt and search for anything you think needs fixing. And it could be anything. Maybe you did a vowel wrong at only one point. Then the judgement will be sloppy articulation. You went a little flat in one spot only, so, for the whole song, you are pitchy.and that is all.

And evidently you have to be an expert to be a teacher and I don't know who is in charge of handing out the pin or badge that says expert. I don't what the requirements are to have expert status. Live shows, current or past? Professionally released albums? A degree from a university? What about certification from other singing training system? Is that something akin to a diploma mill? What about approval from other voice professionals in the world?

As for paying for lessons as a beginner, yes it is a valid pursuit. Why? Because sometimes paying hard-earned money makes you pay attention. There is already all kinds of free information out there that people are NOT listening to. If they would listen, they would already have the pointers they need. Plus, they need to pay someone to count scales, just as some need to a pay a trainer to count their sit-ups at the gym. Without that external focus of intent and money, some will lose focus and drive to do what it is they say it is they want to do.

Redneck rules of engagement, by ronws.