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Yeah, send me your address so I can fed-ex you a box of tissues for your tears. Finish the song, anyway. You already have more than the Beatles had when they started out.

Take advice from David Lee Roth from the song "Crazy from the Heat."

"I ain't complaining, you do the best with what you've got. I know you're laughing 'cause it's easy to tell

I'm going crazy ...."

Yeah, look, I know, you are proud of how old and stubborn you are. And I am older, with more practice being stubborn. Finish the production, secure copyright, get it released.

Then, get ahold of JJ Abrams and / or who ever his music person is and get it synchro-licensed to the next Star Trek movie. This would be awesome in that sound track, with Chris Pine doing all kinds of daring-do.

But I know you want rear back and prove how stubborn you are and dismiss my advice. Well, come at me bro ...

I also like your version. And, I think, between you and Felipe, you have more of the compressed sound that Bruce has. Your articulation is spot on and with no accent. Brilliant.

I noticed that you have an MXL in the stand, just like the one I have. How are you liking it?

Well done, Felipe. And I don't expect you to sound like Bruce. For one thing, you have a voice that sounds more operatic, any given day, than his.

But this is still a great version.

Good timing and good expression, still off pitch or not in tune with the song pretty much everywhere. Also, you can clean up the vocal track by deleting the sounds  you clearing your throat and smacking your lips.

Good song and I think it is the right range for your voice.

Just stay with the whiny brat all the way through. Although, I think for humor's sake, you could ape Rick Allen, the drummer and his intro on another DL hit. It is him with the fake german accent saying "unter glieben glauben globen." And by the way, that phrase doesn't mean anything, it was his way of counting in the beat of the song.

I enjoyed it, G, and I totally got an Aaron Neville vibe off this, too. I think that was the right feel for it.You don't sound like Aaron but you had his style of expression in this.

I have enjoyed everything by FF and "Monkey Wrench" is probably my favorite. And I have followed Dave's career, including his touring as the drummer for Queens of the Stone Age, another awesome and underrated band. I saw a recent vid where Dave showed how they recorded their latest album direct through a mixing board to 2 inch tape. Talk about committment. You have to get it right the first time. And he had the instruments and mics set up literally in the garage. Old school, low tech, and totally rocking.

Hey, Bay, long time, no see. You have been beaker-ized.

And this will be moved to the review singing section.

I really liked "Worn" specifically because of the time changes. That is way harder to nail than a 4 on the 4 boom-chuck at 160 bpm. Definitely an AIC vibe there with a voice that went from Weiland to Staley to something new and fresh.

"Understanding" is awesome and is a radio hit with very much a Foo Fighters feel, but with a clearer and more intelligible voice. I love Dave Grohl but his growl can get so thick.

19 hours ago, Jeremy Mohler said:

Yeah it was a bit whack, I was disappointed that they couldn't get the vocals right in the backing xD.  Next time I'm just going to play the music on the acoustic myself and have you record the backing vocals for me!  

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Let me know when.

Beg.

You sounded more strong and sure in the second and later repeats of chorus. I think the first one, you were trying to add meat and it was a bit shaky, like you were still looking for your line in the song. The later parts, I know you were going lighter but it worked better. And before you worry too much about how close you might achieve Joe's tonality, please remember that a really huge part of his sound, especially on this album, was the mixing and recording acumen of engineers like Robert "Mutt" Lange and Bob Rock and other engineers influenced by the lush sound they produced.  Lead vocals were often double and triple tracked the old fashioned way. Reverbs and chorus rack units. It made his voice sound bigger than it is. Wet and splashy drums, fuzzy bass, chorused guitar, even in a band that had two guitars.

Then some more on the BV from the other band members, like Phil and Steve, who could also sing.

This song is a test of a singer's mettle in going in and around the passagio because that is where the chorus is. It's almost as if the high "screams" are easier to do because they are just noises, rather than articulated lyrics. So, bravo for having the huevos to try this song.

I agree, this song suits your voice and vice versa. I think you will find it easier if you pick a mode for your voice and use it all the way through.

I understand now. Sometimes, I dislike karaoke with included BV because they are recorded with someone else's ideas in mind.

What is vinal? I have not seen that word before, and I have seen a lot of words. I know what nigh means. It is old english for near or close.

Jarom was trying to be polite, to his credit.

I was pleasantly surprised. Normally, you have a clean, almost operatic voice, which would of course, fit this song. But you had some grit. And I confess, I wanted to see how you handled the bridge. And you did it dead on perfect.

Bravo, Senor Carvhalo, bravo. As good as the original, which is probably the highest compliment I have given anyone, considering that even though I am not religious, I would nominate Dio for sainthood. Which would probably tick him off, since he was not all that fond of the church.

I really enjoyed it and it is the right song for your voice. What I noticed is that background vocals are off in the chorus on the phrase "don't want to hurt no one." The lead vocal is on the right path, the BV strays a smidge. I have a feeling that you actually tracked BV separately, rather than dupe and change mix. Thing I learned, make the consonants soft to non-existant on BV so they do not compete with the lead line.

Great mix and recording. Definitely keep this in your set list. If you ever show up at my house for brisket, you will have to sing this song. And I will sing the BV.

Awesome song that feels like I have lived it.

Now for useless trivia. Steve Miller is from the Dallas, Texas area. He is a stickler for sound quality and so he does not play live venues very much.

Nearly every interview, someone has asked him "what is 'the pompatus of live'?" His reply is, "I have no idea. It was a phrase that fit the beat for that part of the song and I could not think of a lyric that meant anything."

I couldn't hear any problems. Granted, Felipe sounds different than Ian and I don't care and there is no one big enough or skilled enough to make me care. I like what Felipe did with the melody in this. If I want to listen to an Ian sound on this, I will, oh yeah, I know, go listen to an album version.

However, I can understand how some are just not going to like it because the voice is different. Just like there are people who do not like my voice, regardless of what sing. It happens. 

And there have a been a few times when Felipe covered a song quite well and it just didn't move me, so I didn't comment. Who wants to read that I just didn't care for it? That doesn't help anyone. Kind of like being in a cooking discussion about baked alaska and I could pop in say, "I don't like brussel sprouts." Something like a non-sequitur.

Actually, I am done with this thread. Jarom suggested the song from "Sound of Music" and 2 cats called it rubbish. So, if the help being offered here is considered rubbish, I can better spend my time elsewhere.

The other thing you might need is a doctor. Perhaps there is something neurological or physical in your hearing and ability to make sounds that is disconnected. You might actually need a hearing test. That is not an insult or critique. Just a suggestion.

21 hours ago, Collin571 said:

Yeah only I get to be the best singer ever and recognized as such by TMVW.. and I also get pizza go figure

Extra large with pepperoni and sausage and cheese and ranch dipping sauce? Make that two pizzas?

Not exactly what I meant but it doesn't matter. The problem, evidently, is that you are not hearing the difference between what note you sing and the note being played or sung by others. That is, it would not matter if you tried to match notes with a piano, guitar, ukele, or any site that google could find for you that would play a virtual piano. You are not hearing how the notes in the music are one thing and you are singing something that is not matching.

One of the things I learned is once you find the right note, equate it in your mind to an object or color, doesn't matter what it is as long as your mind makes the connection.

Since you are not able to hear that difference, you really need a vocal coach who can cue you to go higher or lower until you are matching the notes and then you can memorize that feeling, whatever that feeling is. And needs to be someone with you in real time, either in person or via Skype. Robert Lunte here does skype lessons.

I think you can work on it and get better. On your loud notes, regardless of pitch, you are either overloading the mic or the input the mic is plugged into. So, lower that input and also, when singing loud, especially loud and high, move back from the mic a bit.

Ear training is learning to match pitch or notes that you hear compared to what you are singing.

A guitar is playing a single string, fretted at the second fret and it is an A3. Matching pitch means you singing the note that is A3, just like the guitar.

First off, you can can the condescending attitude of meeting our demands. We really are trying to help. And if you read the information given to you at both your signing into the forum and repeated in this thread, it does not say, use any old thing that eventually gets you to a streaming link. It says to post a link that streams. And if that is going to be a problem for you, then it will be a problem for anyone trying to help you. And for some of us, your link was simply not working, period, paragraph, end of book, forever, amen. Browbeating us about it won't actually win you any points of credibility, either. Chill, go with the flow.

This a slightly better recording. You are still coming in too hot on the mic, but at least it is only on the louder notes and not all the way through. And yes, I give myself permission to comment on that because I have been king of the crappy recordings. Ask anyone who has been around here for a while.

And you are still off pitch. I would suggest that you really listen to your recording, the one you shared here. I can't point to a particular point in the song because it is the entire song. So, just pick a spot or phrase in the song and really listen. The reason is I am wondering if you are not capable of making a note that matches pitch and if it is a hearing problem.

14 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

But did it sound good?

You said it sounded horrible. So, why should we want to listen to something horrible?

And yeah, the whole stubborn-and-not-paying-attention-to-what-we-say thing, that's not going to work for you as well as you might hope.

13 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

Okay i understand. But could you take a listen and see if my vocals fit the song?

I think your understanding is not quite complete. You already feel the song is horrible. So, re-do it until you like it. Again, others may still have critique and be willing to face that without misgivings.

On the other hand, if you don't think the song is right for voice, and that is a valid concern, then don't do it. Something I have learned for myself, as well. Just because I like a song and may have the range to sing it does not mean that it will sound right in my voice, even if not comparing to the original.