Gneetapp

Hi IamHo, when you say "learning online" do you mean, watching youtube videos, and reading tips from vocal teachers and students? If so, this type of "learning by yourself" usually takes the longest time, when compared with taking vocal lessons in person or through Skype. I think you still have to work on pitch. You should start with simple pitch matching exercises. You could even download apps for your cell that would help you to do that. But bear in mind that having a good vocal coach/teacher (even through Skype lessons) is the best and fastest way to improve vocally. If you like singing, keep working on it, save some money to take lessons, or buy vocal programs, or books. Cheers, and keep on rocking!

A.W.E.S.O.M.E. Felipe! It almost brought tears to my eyes, as I'm far away from home and I thought of my 2-year-old son, who is back home. Excellent job man! :cool:

Sounding good man!

I liked your voice best at the "pre-chorus" sections. The chorus sounds odd to me, sort of cartoonish. And the low parts were nice too. Keep on rocking man! :cool:

Hey guys, Good Job! I liked the contrast between the voices, that MDEW already mentioned. I felt that Ronws sang it so relaxed and easy that he got a bit late in the timing. Not that this is a bad thing, I just noticed it. Quick question: what did you do (Ronws) when you sang "and in the master chambers, they gathered for the feast..."?! Because it sounded really powerful, and maybe compressed and different than what I'm used to listen from you. Really cool tone! Bay, I really liked your take on this classic rock! AWESOME! :cool:

Beautiful and soft voice. I liked it!

A.W.E.S.O.M.E.!!!!

Hey Neko, I liked it too! But let me tell you one thing: I think I told you before in your cover of Still Loving You how I liked the way you alternate from "sweet-light" singing to a raspy-distorted rock sound. You did that in the beginning of the song, and it was cool, but I missed more of these moments in the rest of the song. If I may suggest you to try this song alternating the soft and hard singing. I think it would be more artistically appealing, IMO. Great singing man, keep them coming. :cool:

Yeah! I never heard this song before, so I can't compare with the original. Nevertheless, I thought you were great, sounded very nice and controlled. Cheers

Hey man, good job! I don't know anything from The Eagles, a part from Hotel California , so I can comment on that. But I thought that it is really nice, the story, and the music reminded me of some tunes from the 80s, probably because of the keyboards.

A few years back I wrote a song that I think has got the country music feeling, although I'm not qualified as a country music expert, and after listening to your song I thought about posting it just an acoustic guitar version, so you guys let me know what you think. Cheers!

Awesome! I found it really funny, even though I didn't understand anything...ha ha :P

Good job man! I got mixed feelings after listening to your cover. I really liked the way you alternate the light and heavy parts with the distortion. But I thought the chorus was a bit theatrical for me, or at least the 2nd part of the chorus. I think you got a nice tone for hard rock songs. Keep on rocking and posting more songs.:cool:

Wow! You have a really nice voice. I really appreciate that slight fry that you have. About the hight notes, I think they are absolutely in your DNA, but I think you have just to 'make them yours' a little bit more to reach you full potential. Keep rockin'!

Hi Neko, many thanks for taking the time to listening and the kind words. This was the first time I could sing the whole song in my practice, so I just had to record it. Now thanks to all these people's comments and tips I'll be able to do it better with practice.

Cheers

Hi Owen, WOW! How can I ever thank you and all these people enough for helping me? This "forum" really makes you feel welcome and worthy. I really liked all the tips man, and in fact, I have started practicing the songs line by line, as you and other people have suggested, and it really helps. This recording was the very first time I got to sing all the notes, or at least, close enough, of this song. So, my main concern was to get the high notes and keep chord closure all the way. It is evident that I am able to sing most of the high notes, I just need to work it. I can't wait to go back to my routine of practice, as I am recovering of a 2-no-singing-week due to work demands and a cold I caught. Today I was just fooling around singing some songs, and it felt much better. I will definitely try all your tips man, with exception of the coach, which I intend to do, but in due time. Many thanks again.

I just listened to it. Twice. I think that you are just not hitting the notes dead on. You sound like you are "fishing" for them sometimes. But yes, you have the range to sing then. Maybe you couldn't heart the backing track enough when you recorded it?

Hi Keith, you could be right about fishing for the notes. As this was the first time in my practice that I could sing those notes (or at least close enough), I was definitely not confident at all. I'm sure with practice it will get better. I am just recovering from a 2-week-no-singing because of work and a cold I caught. So, when I tried to sing yesterday it was awful. Today I'm having a better vocal-day.

Many thanks for taking the time to listen and commenting. It really means a lot to me, as it helps me to improve. Hopefully, in a few weeks I can post a cover that is not from practice, but a performance cover. Cheers :cool:

Songs I have sang for a decade or so and then, when I press record, I step on my own feet.

But you may have some red light syndrome. It is similar to stagefright but even more insular than being in front of a crowd.

I bet the price of lunch that if you sang it, again, right now, it would sound different.

Hey Ronws, I think I definitely have RLS...he he he :)

Hey Garnet, I never heard this song nor the band before, but I thought you did an excellent job! I liked your timbre as well, not too dark, not too bright, right in the middle. You are really talented, as you learned how to sing this well by yourself. I listened to some of your other songs in SoundCloud and I liked it. Welcome to the forum, and I hope you stick around, specially in the critique section, as I started to post my vocal practices to get tips on improvement. Cheers

Sounding good man! I can't wait to hear it with a backing track! :D

Hey Aspiring, thanks again for stoping by, and helping me with a further analysis of the song. I couldn't agree more with you and MDEW regarding the chorus. I just listened to the recording and I got what you guys are saying. After "Till now" the tone changes completely, and for worse.

I liked what you suggested for practice, singing the whole sentence instead of the notes of each word. It makes more sense. I think it was 2 days ago I tried something the Xamedhi suggested me, practicing the song sentence by sentence, after the original singer, and the results are so much better.

Many thanks again, cheers.

Hey, Gneetapp. What I hear is: ( haha )

In the verses, the tone is mostly good. I think it's just your personality that makes it sound, well, like you. It's hard to explain, haha ( it reminds me somewhat of Axl Rose, don't know why )

And in the Chorus, the thing is, just like Garnet said, it sounds shouty. Thin, but shouty, which is pretty weird, haha. When I discovered the coordination for headvoice I tended to round and "OH/UH/OO"-ed everything, because it is the easiest way to stay in that mix.

And that is also what I hear in Bruce Dickinson or Fabio Lione, (who are the most operatical guys I've heard in the metal scene, btw ) and I tried to imitate their sound colour to sound "big", even though fold-ly ( haha ) I was not heavy or as adducted.

I suggest, practice the hell out of the coordination, and use more closed vowels so it is easier to stay in mix and it sounds like curbing or metal-like neutral. Then when you got a hold of it, start giving it more and more weight

( At least that is what I've done in my learning process, and it has worked for me So just my two cents n.n )

Hey man, many thanks for listening and commenting. I agree with you regarding the tone in the verses being better than in the chorus. But, does it sound like myself, or a copy of Axel Rose? Cause I really didn't have him on my mind while singing this...hahaha.

The chorus needs a lot of work. Today I was giving it a listen, and I got what MDEW said about being off-pitch but so close to the right pitch that it sounds weird. Well, as I said in another post, this was the first time in my practice that I got to sing this song completely, so I just had to post it here to find out if I am on the right track. I also agree with you and Garnet about the chorus being shouty and still light. But as I said, as I keep practicing the sounds get bigger/beefier. At least, it is happening with the chorus of Miles Away, it sounds fuller now than on the recording, and it came easier too.

I'm still having a hard time with the vowels, so the way I started practicing this week was singing an ooh (as an owl) and trying to keep that throat shape while singing the lyrics, and it is being helpful so far.

Many thanks again Seb

For me this was really really great until the chorus, which you struggled with. It felt shouted to me, but thin at the same time. I think that feeling stems from the sharp notes you had in there; you seemed to be over shooting in your attempt to hit the notes.

This song is huge and I think there are other songs out there that aren't as large a leap as this one, but will still challenge you. I think it takes a lot of guts to go for this song like you did, and props on that because your energy was fantastic, but I would work on your breath support, intonation, and control on this one.

I would love to hear some tenor-range, rock vocals from you - you should definitely check out Adam Lambert as I think his songs would definitely suit you and would be an apt challenge for you right now.

Kudos on the energy and verses, I would love to hear you re-try these choruses after some support and pitch work!

Hey Garnet, first of all thank you so much for taking the time to listen and comment. I totally agree with you regarding the difficulty level of this song, and I am totally aware that are several things to fix in this recording. This is why I posted here.

However, just to clarify, I found my way through my passaggio break just a couple of months ago, and it was by myself, with no coach to guide me. Since then, I started practicing singing several songs really challenging that are helping me to strength the coordination and build muscle memory (such as: Alone-Heart, Don't stop believing - Journey, Still loving you - Scorpions, Ben - M. Jackson, Miles away - Winger, In a darkened room - Skid Row, Coming Home - Cinderella, Fool for your loving - Whitesnake, Love aint no stranger - Whitesnake, Give me all your love tonight - Whitesnake, Superman - Five for Fighting, Sweet Child o'Mine - Guns, Nightrain - Guns, Like a stone - Audioslave). I already posted here my practice of Superman, Like a Stone, and Miles Away, so if you feel inclined to have a listen at those too, I would very much appreciate it.

Well, back to this thread, so this recording of Alone was actually the first time I could sing the whole song in maybe 2 weeks of unfocused practice. As a former "chest-puller", my only concern while singing this song was not to fall back into yelling mode, which I succeeded. Now, with the tips I'm getting here, from you and several others, I'll just keep practicing in my spare time, incorporating all the techniques needed, while strengthening the coordination and my voice. I will definitely re-post the improved version of this song and the others I have posted before.

Many thanks again, and don't forget to check my other vocal practices, if you don't mind.

Cheers

Hey buddy, you know I'm no vocal teacher and not even an advanced student, but it would be my pleasure to share with you a few things that helped me to overcome my passaggio, although I still need a lot of work to smooth it out. If you want we could have a little chat over Skype. Just send me an e-mail and let me know what you think. Cheers!

How about the puppy sound?! hehe

Hey MDEW, I checked your cover of Never been to Spain, and commented.

I think I know what you mean regarding the vocalizes. I used to be able to sing really high notes during vocalizes at home, but whenever I got band practice, I would just go into yelling mode and would not sing any of those high notes. I think this has to do with those vowels that Ronws keeps talking about. You could try practice the sounds/vocalizes with several different vowels, so you would get a sense of where they go. It may take time until you get your break thru, but once you get it, you just need to work on the right coordination to build muscle memory.

Hey MDEW, I listened only to the 2nd version, so I can compare, but I liked your tone throughout the whole song. Of course, you can still smooth it out a few spots to sound your best, but it is good overall. Have you tried practicing with the cry sound, as Olem suggested? I think you could really benefit from it. I know it helped me a lot. Cheers!