Judas Priest - Screaming for vengeance

[SwedishRocker]

http://www.smule.com/p/713794929_492466125

 

This one i sang just for fun. It sounds horrible i know it but i had fun while recording this. 

 

[Robert Lunte]

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Please provide a version of the song that you feel sounds great, or is your best effort, or has elements that you feel are good. If you feel it is "horrible" and you know it, then there is no need to take time listening and reviewing it.

Put your best foot forward always, especially in here when asking for reviews.

Tough Love Coach

 

[SwedishRocker]

Did it sound horrible?

[ronws]

You need to re-read and absorb Robert's reply. If you think it is horrible, why should we bother listening to it? Are you waiting for "OMG, you are the best singer ever and quit criticizing yourself"?

That's going to be a long wait, so you might order a pizza.

Instead, work on the song, make it the best that you can. One of my pet peeves is when people want to give all these conditions and disclaimers up front. Forget all that. I don't want to read about that. I want to hear you singing as best as you can. And that is what Robert is asking for. 

Might you still have some things that need work? Maybe, and those comments will happen.

I have been guilty of recording songs I liked that don't really sound right in my voice, especially in the original arrangement. So, I have been where you are. Instead, I really examine my recordings and I have a few I have worked on that I have not shared because I know it's not sounding right. I might play with them some more. Maybe not. So, my work ethic is also improving and it also explains why I have not posted anything in a while. I am becoming more choosy and there may be few here thinking "Hallelujah, about stinking time." 

So, re-think what you are doing.

[Robert Lunte]

Simon, there is a lesson here for you... but also, on a practical perspective, I am HELLA busy... and seriously, if you don't believe in the effort, then I don't have time to review it. I doubt few others do either.

C'mon... step up and submit something that you feel has some merit.. It doesn't have to be amazing. You are allowed to learn, grow, get better, make mistakes, etc... but at least present something that has something in it, that you believe in.

[SwedishRocker]

Okay i understand. But could you take a listen and see if my vocals fit the song?

[ronws]

13 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

Okay i understand. But could you take a listen and see if my vocals fit the song?

I think your understanding is not quite complete. You already feel the song is horrible. So, re-do it until you like it. Again, others may still have critique and be willing to face that without misgivings.

On the other hand, if you don't think the song is right for voice, and that is a valid concern, then don't do it. Something I have learned for myself, as well. Just because I like a song and may have the range to sing it does not mean that it will sound right in my voice, even if not comparing to the original.

[Robert Lunte]

Simon,

I want to compliment you on choosing a kick ass song. Rob Halford is most certainly one of the greatest of all kind... 

 

Review:

- You need TA engagement, you are on the edges of your vocal folds.

- It has pitch problems, in large part because you are not stable with good TA strength.

 

How do you fix:

- The Four Pillars of Singing

- Train Onsets & Sirens: Resistance: #3 ... and then work on these parts very slowly inside a belty position... 

     - A&R Onsets + Slowly hold onto the musculature and train your articulators how to shape these lyrics on these notes.

 

Take note how narrowed Halford is on his articulation and vowels... A certain level of "ease" as he sings this... BIG CLUE... that is because he is amplifying the resonance, not hollering.

Singing like this is about focusing acoustic energy, like a laser beam... from narrowing.. which can't really happen correctly, if you don't have TA strength.

Train with me and Ill show you how... 

It is melting down because you don't have belt strength for it.

 

[Gsoul82]

I think I see what's going on here, Simon. Never be afraid to take criticism. You can always get better and you're here to do just that. There are no bullies around here. Only people who will tell you what issues you have and how to fix them.

 

This should be helpful. Please read:

 

[Robert Lunte]

6 minutes ago, Gsoul82 said:

I think I see what's going on here, Simon. Never be afraid to take criticism. You can always get better and you're here to do just that. There are no bullies around here. Only people who will tell you what issues you have and how to fix them.

 

This should be helpful. Please read:

 

No bullies, only tough love brothers...

 

[SwedishRocker]

But did it sound good?

[ronws]

14 hours ago, Simon Öhlund said:

But did it sound good?

You said it sounded horrible. So, why should we want to listen to something horrible?

And yeah, the whole stubborn-and-not-paying-attention-to-what-we-say thing, that's not going to work for you as well as you might hope.

[Musikman7002]

Hi Simon, I haven't been on site for awhile as I have been very busy musically and otherwise lol. I agree with Roberts opinion. There are several areas you need to develop to keep your voice strong and connected and Roberts course will get you there. I do just want to mention this tho.....I don't believe it was horrible and I think the lesson to learn is what you probably are feeling is that you know you are not singing as proficiently as Rob Halford is and you know you need to improve. Most people even professionals sometimes will admit to me that they HATE the sound of their own voice coming back out of the speaker just as many people can hate to hear their own voice on an Voicemail message etc. I was guilty of pre-excusing my voice before playing people recordings of myself to blunt the attack I guess lol. If I mention it is horrible to begin with then nobody will probably add that to their critique haha. I still don't always love to hear my own voice and constantly try to improve but I have learned to know when I am in key and singing properly and whether that is tone that others like or not isn't my concern. As a singer you have to make the leap and not ask for permission to sing to an audience and offer disclaimers ahead of time. Embrace your voice and learn how to use it and develop the confidence in your instrument to entertain people and make music that YOU enjoy. Once you do this and have fun the audience will come along with you even if you don't love your voice always remember that John Lennon hated the sound of his voice and was constantly looking for ways to process it so he could tolerate it. I feel your pain brother, one of the best compliments a friend gave me on an early recording was that "it sounds great, it doesn't even sound like you" lol. Not that I was trying to sound like anyone else but rather that he also understood my insecurity at that time with my voice. Train with Robert and the rest will fall into place. If you want to sing like Halford etc you are at the right place.

 

[Collin571]

On 7/12/2016 at 8:52 PM, ronws said:

You need to re-read and absorb Robert's reply. If you think it is horrible, why should we bother listening to it? Are you waiting for "OMG, you are the best singer ever and quit criticizing yourself"?

That's going to be a long wait, so you might order a pizza.

Instead, work on the song, make it the best that you can. One of my pet peeves is when people want to give all these conditions and disclaimers up front. Forget all that. I don't want to read about that. I want to hear you singing as best as you can. And that is what Robert is asking for. 

Might you still have some things that need work? Maybe, and those comments will happen.

I have been guilty of recording songs I liked that don't really sound right in my voice, especially in the original arrangement. So, I have been where you are. Instead, I really examine my recordings and I have a few I have worked on that I have not shared because I know it's not sounding right. I might play with them some more. Maybe not. So, my work ethic is also improving and it also explains why I have not posted anything in a while. I am becoming more choosy and there may be few here thinking "Hallelujah, about stinking time." 

So, re-think what you are doing.

Yeah only I get to be the best singer ever and recognized as such by TMVW.. and I also get pizza go figure

[ronws]

21 hours ago, Collin571 said:

Yeah only I get to be the best singer ever and recognized as such by TMVW.. and I also get pizza go figure

Extra large with pepperoni and sausage and cheese and ranch dipping sauce? Make that two pizzas?

[Gsoul82]

Also, I forgot to mention one thing. Great idea to use Smule. I thought I was the only one. It's great practice and somewhat interesting to get feedback.