akarawd

Thanks for taking the time to listen, I appreciate it. Can you please be a bit more specific ? If I know exactly what you mean and which parts of the song you're referring to, I can better myself and at a later date re-post it with the corrections.

The encouragement does help and I'm sure I'll know it when the singing voice is actually "there". Thanks a lot Snax, I appreciate it.

Thanks a lot Snax, I'm a fan of your voice so this means a lot. Conquering the ability to actually sing with a real singing voice - like you do for example - will be the biggest achievement for me. Thanks again.

I'm shocked at the difference too analog, to be honest with you there's a very fine line between the production of the two distortions. Only one brings you to a healthy distortion and the other just rips you apart. What I practiced on was ex.210 from the cvt book. I did that for about a week - always using warm up&down. I must admit I should have spend more time on finding and taming the noise - I need to get back to that. Slowly I added vowels to the noise and stopped if I ever felt any kind of strain or tickling sensation. By stopped I mean I kept on doing warm down&up exercises. Applying twang or raising the larynx (moving the larynx is sth I've spent years of practice on) helped immensely. At some point I produced donald duck's voice which was hilarious. When doing the "rattle" the uvula vibrates fast and feels like there's phlegm at the back of the throat. " EDIT : I got an answer from my cvi teacher and clip #4 is not distortion, it's rattle in neutral with lots of twang and no air - so rattle in mln. Anyway , what you hear now is my progress so far. I also found that in the beginning, producing this effect is easier on higher registers - even if you use a light head voice as your basis. I am not quite sure if it's distortion or rattle (or another effect) but I am slowly working on it. One last thing I'd like to say is that if I can do it - even at this preliminary stage - anybody can. I've "sang" - more like shouted - clean all my life and my singing voice still needs serious work. If this doesn't help please let me know. Cheers man.

Thanks a bunch Michelle, I'm glad muting the music made things clearer. Cheers.

Rawg71, thanks for clearing this up, I totally understand now. The break at 2:00, yes, I should have taken a bit of time to iron out points like that. I will be more diligent in the future. And you're right about pushing the voice back in the mix, that changes things totally, if we heard some pro metal vocal tracks on their own we'd be in shock, I know from experience. Thanks again, I totally appreciate your input and attention to detail, it means a lot.

Thanks a lot analog, I'm really glad you liked #4 & #1, my favs too. Cheers man.

My choices too, #4 and then #1. Thanks again Jonpall.

Jonpall, cheers man, glad you liked it. Thanks a lot.

Thanks for the encouragement Jens, I understand you're into this type of sound too so it means a lot coming from you. Thanks again.

Thanks Rawg71 and you're absolutely right in what you're saying about 1st owning the song and then adding dist etc. The thing is I kinda thought I had this song - are you hearing the strain in all clips/parts ? I feel great comfort when singing it and the distortions (especially #4) are not taxing to the voice but if all parts sound strained or out of my range it's important that I know. In the clean version I opted for neutral without it sounding mellow and in the distorted versions it may sound like I'm about to tear my throat apart but it's not so at all, it's just a noise I place over my singing voice. I find your input really important - it makes me "see" what I do from a different point of view and therefore understand my possible mistakes. Thanks again, I appreciate it

Thank you for listening Jens. #4 is my favorite too - I tend to think it's a better interpretation 'cause this particular song kinda needs that edge. I strongly believe that emotions distort our perception, therefore, I was a bit skeptical about this distortion (?) - is it convincing or am I just excited I produced some after 15 years ? No complaints so far, so in all probability others are hearing what I believe I'm hearing. Thanks again.

Thanks a bunch for the comment Rawg71, I'm really glad you liked it. Got me a bit confused with the "effects" ; are you referring to reverb/delay or distortion/rattle ? If you'd like to listen to any of these clips without any rev/dly just let me know. Also, if you ever get the time, could please let me know what you think of #4 which is my favorite ? Thanks again, I appreciate your contribution.

Ronws thanks a lot for taking the time to listen to all the clips. Can you please define "muddy vowels" ? Are you referring to a wrong pronunciation or loosing the center of the mode(s) in vowel pronunciation ? About Halford, I just think he just didn't pay attention to his health and all the drug (cocaine) and alcohol (vodka) abuse caught up with him, although his midrange still sounds fantastic. I might re-arrange it at some point and implement the changes you mentioned just for kicks, why not ? Thanks again for your answer

Freddie they all sound terrific, my personal favorite is That was yesterday because of the "intimacy" in your voice. It is my humble opinion that this type of darker quality applies better to the "pop-ier" material so the song choice was wise. Great job.

Hi everyone, I am still testing twang and different distortions. I am slowly narrowing down my findings to 2 distortions ; Rattle and what seems to be Distortion - although I am not sure yet. They are both comfortable and do not compromise my voice * I have done the song Resurrection in what I believe is : 1. (Fairly) Clean + Twang or MLN (?). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781520/Vocals/Rob%20Halford%20-%20Resurrection%20%28Clean%29.mp3 2. Distortion (?) an octave lower. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781520/Vocals/Rob%20Halford%20-%20Resurrection%20%28Low%29.mp3 3. Rattle (?). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781520/Vocals/Rob%20Halford%20-%20Resurrection%20%28Rattle%29.mp3 4. Distortion (?) which is my favorite - although it does tend to fall back on rattle (?). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781520/Vocals/Rob%20Halford%20-%20Resurrection%20%28Dist%29.mp3 5. A combination of rattle (?) & distortion (?). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1781520/Vocals/Rob%20Halford%20-%20Resurrection%20%28New%29.mp3 Again, these are my observations and would like to hear what you think these effects are - plus any additional criticisms you might have. Thanks in advance, Thanos PS. Most of the original vocals have been removed along with most of the center channel info but most parts are without music at all. PS2. If on mac/safari, you'll need safari 5 to view this link. *as the voice in my "What kind of technique am I using in this distorted vocal ?" (http://www.punbb-hosting.com/forums/themodernvocalist/viewtopic.php?id=1044) post for example. EDIT : I got an answer from my cvi teacher and clip #4 is not distortion, it's rattle in neutral with lots of twang and no air - so rattle in mln. Therefore, all of the above clips that are referred to as distortion are in fact rattle.

I 2nd the Geoff Tate comparison you Jeff sound a lot like him in his better days. Really pro work here - I wouldn't change a thing.

Thanks for taking the time to listen and for your comment. Hopefully I'll soon be able to sing simple everyday tunes in as a controlled way - I'm constantly practicing on that and this forum's a great help. Thanks again guitartrek.

Glad you liked it guitartrek, I will practice the song in curbing (I did take a couple of skype lessons with cvi). Thanks for your observation.

It sounds 101% convincing to me, a real singer's voice.

Hi all, I'm reviewing my samples and would like to know if there are any criticisms about this performance. I feel I haven't stayed "in the mode" all through the song and that I could apply a bit more growl on the high notes. Any suggestions are welcome, I am interested in improving myself. Thanks in advance, akarawd

Hi, As with my other posts I'm slowly trying to identify my mistakes and better these performances. So far I've been told to sing the "soft verses" using a better "connection" between chest and head voice. Are there any other areas you feel should be addressed in this song ? Thanks in advance, akarawd

Hi Olem, thanks a lot for taking the time to listen. I will definitely use more twang on the next version. From now on I'm practicing songs at 80% of their speed so as to memorize and clarify each word and verse - it's helping me a great deal. Thanks again.

I am currently revising my samples and would like to ask if anyone feels there any other areas that need addressing on this song. Thanks in advance, akarawd

Hi Puissance, I'm no expert but here's my humble opinion. You have a great voice overall ; I like how your head voice sounds, you stay in tune, minimal wavering, the only criticism I could make is that you tend to push vowels whereas you really needn't. The soft parts are the ones I feel you haven't "nailed". Some are a tiny bit out of pitch and are sang in a soft way like singing to yourself, not trying to convey the message. I understand that this might be due to the tricky passagio area but I can most definitely hear the potential in your voice to nail these parts. Again, not an expert but a simple listener. akarawd