Cover of Bringing on a Heartbreak (Deff Leppard)

[Gneetapp]

Hi guys, today I had some spare time and recorded another Def Leppard song: Bringing on a Heartbreak. Please leave your comments, the good, the bad, an the worst. I hope you guys enjoy it. Cheers

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[Collin571]

Tight!  Good flow I feel like at some parts you could've broke through the tension with some distortion and a higher intensity.  I think a higher intensity will help you make this song sound edgier.  Are you going as loud as you can on this or are you holding back some?

[Gsoul82]

Finally, I am one of the first

 

You really sounded right at home on this one. Is it one of your favorites?

Blended right in. Great cover.

[Gneetapp]

6 hours ago, Collin571 said:

Tight!  Good flow I feel like at some parts you could've broke through the tension with some distortion and a higher intensity.  I think a higher intensity will help you make this song sound edgier.  Are you going as loud as you can on this or are you holding back some?

Thanks Collin. I felt it was easier to keep the flow and beat of this one better than the A-Ha song. I have been trying to stay away from distortion as much as I can until I am able to use it in a healthy way. I actually thought of using some distortion in the high parts of the chorus to make it thicker, but ended up focusing on singing the right notes the best I could lol. I am going as loud as I can at the moment in the chorus. But I know I could go much louder once I get strong enough to add more "meat", as I've been singing the chorus with a lighter approach. Thanks again man!

[Gneetapp]

5 hours ago, Gsoul82 said:

Finally, I am one of the first

 

You really sounded right at home on this one. Is it one of your favorites?

Blended right in. Great cover.

Hi Gsoul, thanks for being one of the first to check it out, man! I'm glad you liked it! I don't know why, but I really felt at ease with this song, even though I learned it just a couple of weeks ago. I really felt my voice was a great match for the song, even though it still needs some work, especially in that last phrase of the pre-chorus and during the chorus itself, when it goes higher after heartache and heartbreak. But I humbly feel that this has been one of my best covers so far. So, this is one of my favorites now! lol Cheers!

[Gneetapp]

C'mon guys! Please, don't make me beg for attention... 

[ronws]

Beg.

You sounded more strong and sure in the second and later repeats of chorus. I think the first one, you were trying to add meat and it was a bit shaky, like you were still looking for your line in the song. The later parts, I know you were going lighter but it worked better. And before you worry too much about how close you might achieve Joe's tonality, please remember that a really huge part of his sound, especially on this album, was the mixing and recording acumen of engineers like Robert "Mutt" Lange and Bob Rock and other engineers influenced by the lush sound they produced.  Lead vocals were often double and triple tracked the old fashioned way. Reverbs and chorus rack units. It made his voice sound bigger than it is. Wet and splashy drums, fuzzy bass, chorused guitar, even in a band that had two guitars.

Then some more on the BV from the other band members, like Phil and Steve, who could also sing.

This song is a test of a singer's mettle in going in and around the passagio because that is where the chorus is. It's almost as if the high "screams" are easier to do because they are just noises, rather than articulated lyrics. So, bravo for having the huevos to try this song.

I agree, this song suits your voice and vice versa. I think you will find it easier if you pick a mode for your voice and use it all the way through.

[Gneetapp]

15 hours ago, ronws said:

Beg.

You sounded more strong and sure in the second and later repeats of chorus. I think the first one, you were trying to add meat and it was a bit shaky, like you were still looking for your line in the song. The later parts, I know you were going lighter but it worked better. And before you worry too much about how close you might achieve Joe's tonality, please remember that a really huge part of his sound, especially on this album, was the mixing and recording acumen of engineers like Robert "Mutt" Lange and Bob Rock and other engineers influenced by the lush sound they produced.  Lead vocals were often double and triple tracked the old fashioned way. Reverbs and chorus rack units. It made his voice sound bigger than it is. Wet and splashy drums, fuzzy bass, chorused guitar, even in a band that had two guitars.

Then some more on the BV from the other band members, like Phil and Steve, who could also sing.

This song is a test of a singer's mettle in going in and around the passagio because that is where the chorus is. It's almost as if the high "screams" are easier to do because they are just noises, rather than articulated lyrics. So, bravo for having the huevos to try this song.

I agree, this song suits your voice and vice versa. I think you will find it easier if you pick a mode for your voice and use it all the way through.

Pleeeeaaaase!

Hi Ronws, thank you so much for your review, it really means a lot to me.

I agree with you about the great magnitude of effects involved in this record, not only the vocals. I discovered this song a few weeks ago, and even checked some covers on the web out before  decided to give it a try. I honestly don't try to match Joe's timbre, as I think my voice, or the way I sing has a lot in common with him, or at least is a good match for Def Lep songs, in general. My main concern in this song was the highest parts (the last "can't you see" before chorus and the choruses). I am still not happy with either one, but I think it is passable, and I know I can improve it tremendously with a bit more practice. To be honest with you, I recorded the song "reading" the lyrics on the karaoke track, as I didn't know them by heart. 

My main concern regarding my sound/timbre/style is not to sound too whiny, as I like to sing with this cry a lot. I admit that I would rather sing with this cry than really strong with a lot of meat, like Bruce Dickinson for instance. Nothing against his style, but I like my voice better as a whiny brat. LOL

What do you mean by picking a mode to sing the entire song through?

Thanks again, Cheers

[ronws]

Just stay with the whiny brat all the way through. Although, I think for humor's sake, you could ape Rick Allen, the drummer and his intro on another DL hit. It is him with the fake german accent saying "unter glieben glauben globen." And by the way, that phrase doesn't mean anything, it was his way of counting in the beat of the song.

[aravindmadis]

Very nice.. You sound very close tonally to Joe Elliot.  I guess that helps in sounding very good.  Your bridging has improved a great deal.  This sound it sounds very smooth for the most parts.  So keep doing the good work my friend.  You have come a long way....  BTW, Joe Elliot's voice also has a whiny quality which I love  

This kind of singing is in your sweet spot and you may want to pick songs like this(unless of course you want to experiment and improve in which case the more diversity the better!)

[Gneetapp]

10 hours ago, ronws said:

Just stay with the whiny brat all the way through. Although, I think for humor's sake, you could ape Rick Allen, the drummer and his intro on another DL hit. It is him with the fake german accent saying "unter glieben glauben globen." And by the way, that phrase doesn't mean anything, it was his way of counting in the beat of the song.

Thanks Ronws. I think I watched an interview with them a long time ago, where they mentioned the "unter glieben glauben globen". This part was really funny, and the interview was very educating too. I remember Joe saying that one time they were recording in Vancouver, and down the hall, David Coverdale was also recording his album in another studio room. Joe said that it was very tiring and frustrating for him to record that album, but what it made it worse was running into DC every day and he would say that had just nailed another song. He said he felt really bad...LOL

[Gneetapp]

6 hours ago, aravindmadis said:

Very nice.. You sound very close tonally to Joe Elliot.  I guess that helps in sounding very good.  Your bridging has improved a great deal.  This sound it sounds very smooth for the most parts.  So keep doing the good work my friend.  You have come a long way....  BTW, Joe Elliot's voice also has a whiny quality which I love  

This kind of singing is in your sweet spot and you may want to pick songs like this(unless of course you want to experiment and improve in which case the more diversity the better!)

Thank you so much for the review my friend. Your words really mean a lot to me. I wish I had more time to work on my singing, as my improvements would be more consistent.

 I think this is actually my style, or thing, because  this is how I like to sing the most. But as I said to Ronws, I am usually very concerned of sounding too whiny. I feel this timbre/tone works best for high-pitched slow songs, but I'm trying to use it on more upbeat rock songs too. Hopefully I'll post something new soon. Cheers

[Collin571]

On 7/19/2016 at 6:33 AM, Gneetapp said:

Thanks Collin. I felt it was easier to keep the flow and beat of this one better than the A-Ha song. I have been trying to stay away from distortion as much as I can until I am able to use it in a healthy way. I actually thought of using some distortion in the high parts of the chorus to make it thicker, but ended up focusing on singing the right notes the best I could lol. I am going as loud as I can at the moment in the chorus. But I know I could go much louder once I get strong enough to add more "meat", as I've been singing the chorus with a lighter approach. Thanks again man!

That's smart clean tones are more enjoyable imo as well.  Try what I was talking about in the other thread about trying to keep it down, I was singing this way the other day at work and when i hit the vowel it came out loud clear and pangy with lots of vibrato and I wasn't even expecting that.  It was like woah I was trying to make myself sound less loud and ended up sounding more loud when I opened up for the vowel.. I'm guessing it's cause I had more resonance than I thought I was going to have on that note.

[Gneetapp]

8 hours ago, Collin571 said:

That's smart clean tones are more enjoyable imo as well.  Try what I was talking about in the other thread about trying to keep it down, I was singing this way the other day at work and when i hit the vowel it came out loud clear and pangy with lots of vibrato and I wasn't even expecting that.  It was like woah I was trying to make myself sound less loud and ended up sounding more loud when I opened up for the vowel.. I'm guessing it's cause I had more resonance than I thought I was going to have on that note.

Thanks again man! I totally agree with you, resonance plays such an important part in singing. Sometimes when I get to practice head voice only, if I find my sweetspot the sound gets way louder and it becomes almost effortless. It is really amazing.

[Jeremy Mohler]

HELL YEAH man!  This is one of my all time favorites... great mix and great feel brother!  Seriously carried the song very well, enough so that I was able to jam to it just like the original.  Keep up the good work man!

[Gneetapp]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Mohler said:

HELL YEAH man!  This is one of my all time favorites... great mix and great feel brother!  Seriously carried the song very well, enough so that I was able to jam to it just like the original.  Keep up the good work man!

You are too kind Jeremy! Thank you so much, man. Your words just made my day!

[Jeremy Mohler]

No problem, my pleasure.  

[ronws]

I listened to this again and liked it even more and I can hear now that this song really suits your voice and vice versa. And you may find, as I have found for myself, with any given singer, covering some songs works out good and others not so much. For example, I think I sounded good on Dio's "Holy Diver" but kind of weak on "Rainbow in the Dark."

[Gneetapp]

1 hour ago, ronws said:

I listened to this again and liked it even more and I can hear now that this song really suits your voice and vice versa. And you may find, as I have found for myself, with any given singer, covering some songs works out good and others not so much. For example, I think I sounded good on Dio's "Holy Diver" but kind of weak on "Rainbow in the Dark."

Thank you so much for your kind words my friend. It really means a lot to me.

[Collin571]

15 hours ago, Gneetapp said:

Thanks again man! I totally agree with you, resonance plays such an important part in singing. Sometimes when I get to practice head voice only, if I find my sweetspot the sound gets way louder and it becomes almost effortless. It is really amazing.

Yes it totally becomes so much easier!  Just don't try to chase after completely effortless singing I was doing that for a while and it was not to my benefit lol.

[Gneetapp]

8 minutes ago, Collin571 said:

Yes it totally becomes so much easier!  Just don't try to chase after completely effortless singing I was doing that for a while and it was not to my benefit lol.

Yeah, I'm not really after that. But I made great progress in dialing down my sound pressure