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Yeah the mix could be much better but I'm working with some lo-fi setup right now, unfortunately it's really hard to record good quality piano with my current mic as well which sucks because I'd do more piano stuff if the quality wasn't so average.  I got that effect by double tracking the voice like I did in the John Lennon cover, just two separate takes all the way through.  
And yes I believe I am a tenor in terms of timbre, but my range is so small at the moment I may as well be called baritone haha.  Thanks for listening.   It's definitely going on the set list.. and when Ron arrives, probably the backyard barbecue jam list as well.  

Elise this is common. F4 and F#4 are uniquely challenging.
The ability to adduct and twang in this position is important, but it is only part of what needs to happen, the more intuitive part. The other thing that needs to happen that is not intuitive until you learn what to do is, ... Typically singers are lacking:
- TA engagement. No Belt musculature, or it's not strong enough.
presming that is strong enough, it would then be an acoustics issue. Typically, failure to narrow the vowel, which in turn has the effect of locking down the TA.
Therefore, try shading in /ou/ as in "would" to the formant sound color chemistry.  /ou/ will physically narrow the upper vocal Tract, lock the TA down, amplify a fantastic resonance, and add other secondary benefits like, warm the sound and dampen the larynx. 
Remenber!!!  You are adding /ou/ ishness to the other sound colors for a multicolored sing vowel (formant), not trading one for one as you would with language vowels.
Leverage the tongue as to gain more stability as well. 
Dont try to "hit a loud note", amplify the resonance / formant. If the acoustic mass is too heavy, it won't balance and therefore will not work. You'll just keep choking.
yiu can also practice modifying into /uh/ as well. It is a brother of /ou/, as such, it can really be great for getting a smooth bridge, however it is weak on musculature and you won't get the same narrowing + TA stability you get with /ou/. 
Do it with good  onsets and  sirens inside a 5th interval. 
Do you have Pillars? There are  training routines and videos in Pillars that show you how to do this that TVS students train. 

Great timbre Jeremy! I love this song, man! And you really did it justice! I don't have any technical advice for you, only to record it seriously with separate tracks and metronome, you know, the whole nine yards. So, you have such a bright timbre that I bet you are a tenor, although you may not know yet how to access your high notes. I was wondering how you got the effect on the voice, if it was doubling (recorded twice x copied and pasted with offset) or a really short delay. I also liked the part when you added the keys. Great job! Put it on your set list

Let's see if we can get some fathers misty eyed hahahaha... really beautiful tune with great lyrics and most importantly for me, very easy in my range.  Enjoy
http://picosong.com/DzJh/

Eisa,
Your payment has posted. You should be able to post your link now.

Simon, this is not the first time you say something like this! So, if you don't care, or if you think it sounds horrible (as you mentioned a few times in other threads), why in the world should we spend our time reviewing any song from you?! Several people, including myself and Robert, have already told you in different threads that you need to train seriously if you really want to improve your singing. If you are not willing to work hard to overcome your technical difficulties there is no point in posting the same songs over and over again. Have you noticed that no one (except me and Robert) took their time to comment on this thread? As I've been here for some time, I can tell you that is not just their busy schedules or that they are being mean to you. It is simple like that: if you are not putting your time on this, they aren't either. Peace

Your Maiden:
- Its pitchy, you need to work on intonation.
- There seems to be a little bit of TA strength here, but your not lifting your soft palate and there is a lot of pushing and not enough resonance.
- Are you training?  If you were training good bridging and connecting techniques you would be learning how to free your voice and resonate better. I hear a lot of throatiness, a lot of pushing, no resonance.
- You are also, I think subconsciously, trying to sound like Bruce Dickinson... there are nuances here that seem to sound like your trying to have Bruce Dickinson sound... Don't do that. You need to sing the song in your own belted voice.
... you need proper training ... 
 
Can you please paste in a link of you doing a slow, ascending siren from A3 to A4, through your passaggio. I want to see if you have the coordination and skill to bridge and experience any resonance at all. I want to see if you are training. Lets get to a real solution to help you, instead of reviewing smule clips that don't sound good. You need a reality check Simon, let's get serious. 

More tricks and hacks in our production thread. For this, I need to use Felipe as an example, at least of end product, regardless of what he may be actually doing. When he does a recording, he treats the whole recording.
Here is what I mean by that. Say you are buying a karaoke track from the link supplied here. Don't assume that you cannot do stuff to that backing track, Go ahead and do stuff. And run a compressor on your master track to glue everything together. Treat the result of your singing with the backing track as a whole new product. Really be the producer.
Use auto-ducking compression to lower track volume of the music when your singing appears.
Put some EQ plug-in on the backing track and notch down a decibel or two around 2 kHz. The human voice sits in that area and you can give it prominence that way while having it sound like it is in the mix, as a whole.
You can also do a high-pass filter at a low point. Because if  you dip the backing track at 2 kHz, you may make it bottom-heavy unless you take off some bottom end.
And if you are like me and like to record stuff, even covers, playing your own instruments, realize some things that can make mixing easier. An output from a keyboard, or outboard guitar modeler, like the Line 6 Pod or my Roland GS-6, is already providing some compression. The quietest and loudest notes are not that far apart. So, don't apply extra compression on that track.
You can fatten rhythm guitar with layers. Either double track playing the guitar part again, or duplicate the one that you have and give it different eq, effects, pan, etcetera.
Lead Guitar should not be doubled but you can  fatten it with chorus and delay, either with your effects unit before input or with plug-ins on the track.
Bass guitar should be direct inject and you can mutilate the stuffing out of it, later, if you want.
Unless you are an awesome drummer in an awesome room with a plethora of mics and a tuned set, stick with either MIDI or keyboard drums. Worst case scenario, it may sound "programmed" but at least the timing is correct. (Thinking of Glen Fricker's t-shirt "1 2 3 4 this shirt is already smarter than your drummer.")
 

May I humbly suggest you to post vocalizes or sirens of other vowels (besides "u") too, and even maybe pieces of songs you might be having trouble with. Cheers

Once we post a clip of our singing, it becomes a Review My Singing Request. Please avoid doing this. I have edited out the link

Eisa,
You can post your link in here, but we will move the post to Review my Singing. The RMS is a service. It is a consultation where you will get feedback from experienced members of the forum and from me as well. 
It is $10... Here is the link. Once you have paid, you are then automatically able to make your RMS post in the RMS forum.
 

I've always worked hard on my voice but I've never had the guidance I needed.  Recently I have elected help from Jens and Daniel and they both played a substantial role in peeling away the first layers of bullshit to get me on the right path.
  However I took lessons sparingly and unfortunately I realized I was so profoundly lost in assumptions, bad habits, bad muscle memory, etc etc that merely getting a few lessons was not going to be enough.  So that's why I recently decided to buckle down and get a genuine vocal program that I could adhere to and schedule to.. to optimize and streamline my training to it's fullest potential.  Of course, when it came time to make this decision there was no program that came more highly recommended than Four Pillars.  
I haven't even been at this for two weeks and yet I already see great progress and more importantly, I have complete confidence in the information I am being given.  I have already had two lessons with Robert and each one has been a genuine pleasure and one step further in the right direction of achieving my dream of having a big and exciting voice.  
Thank you Robert, for your help and for drafting what I truly believe to be the best program out there right now.  

Hi guys, I haven't been on the forum in quite a while. I have been busy working and also super busy with my various bands and projects. This is from my band Tair. Normally in this group I play guitar and sing harmony and some lead vox not unlike Jerry Cantrell. We do mainly rock in the vein of Foo Fighters and Alice in Chains type material but this song I wrote just didn't really fit into our normal material so I just finished it on my own because I hate to leave ideas unfinished lol. Anyways, I have mainly recorded cover songs for review on the forum but I have never posted my original material so I thought I would see what you think?
 

Ellise, here is the song I was thinking could be cool to try.
 

Ahh yeah Rons, more specifically I wanted to address your critique when you noticed this: 
What happened was the karaoke track came with set backing vocal for those chorus harmonies and I went through first take and sang the right lyrics and the backing vocals sang the wrong ones.  I just said f@(% it and kept going because I was feeling good about that take haha.  The end result is a bit awkward and I was hoping some people would catch it for a laugh haha.

Hi Simon, I haven't been on site for awhile as I have been very busy musically and otherwise lol. I agree with Roberts opinion. There are several areas you need to develop to keep your voice strong and connected and Roberts course will get you there. I do just want to mention this tho.....I don't believe it was horrible and I think the lesson to learn is what you probably are feeling is that you know you are not singing as proficiently as Rob Halford is and you know you need to improve. Most people even professionals sometimes will admit to me that they HATE the sound of their own voice coming back out of the speaker just as many people can hate to hear their own voice on an Voicemail message etc. I was guilty of pre-excusing my voice before playing people recordings of myself to blunt the attack I guess lol. If I mention it is horrible to begin with then nobody will probably add that to their critique haha. I still don't always love to hear my own voice and constantly try to improve but I have learned to know when I am in key and singing properly and whether that is tone that others like or not isn't my concern. As a singer you have to make the leap and not ask for permission to sing to an audience and offer disclaimers ahead of time. Embrace your voice and learn how to use it and develop the confidence in your instrument to entertain people and make music that YOU enjoy. Once you do this and have fun the audience will come along with you even if you don't love your voice always remember that John Lennon hated the sound of his voice and was constantly looking for ways to process it so he could tolerate it. I feel your pain brother, one of the best compliments a friend gave me on an early recording was that "it sounds great, it doesn't even sound like you" lol. Not that I was trying to sound like anyone else but rather that he also understood my insecurity at that time with my voice. Train with Robert and the rest will fall into place. If you want to sing like Halford etc you are at the right place.
 

Hello Roddy, 
 
Welcome to TMV World forum.
Please upload an avatar / pic to your profile... thanks!
Review:
Nice voice... and "felt".
I really like your rendition of this tune and your voice is very pretty. 
- You seem to have some nice groove as well, which is serving to help your presentation a lot.
- I would work on a cleaner articulation, some of the singing is hard to hear... pronounce your consonants and vowels better.
- At 2:36... and the same part of this song previously, your voice goes flat here... below the pitch. You need to clean this up on rhythm and pitch.. its almost there, but make it tighter. Just because the words are coming out fast like this, that does not mean you can drop your intonation... that part of the song needs to pedal through an E4 accurately... then it will sound a LOT more cool.
- At touch flat at the end with the "nah, nah, nah"... I know you can sing this without being flat. Your being careless, here... tune it up. Your being TOO relaxed... sit up straight and tighten up your intonation.
 
If you like, I can coach you on this tune in a private lesson. You may also be interested in the TVS training program. Contact me personally and I'll give you a $20 savings on the vocal training program for being a new TMV World member!

No bullies, only tough love brothers...
 

I think I see what's going on here, Simon. Never be afraid to take criticism. You can always get better and you're here to do just that. There are no bullies around here. Only people who will tell you what issues you have and how to fix them.
 
This should be helpful. Please read:
 

Simon,
I want to compliment you on choosing a kick ass song. Rob Halford is most certainly one of the greatest of all kind... 
 
Review:
- You need TA engagement, you are on the edges of your vocal folds.
- It has pitch problems, in large part because you are not stable with good TA strength.
 
How do you fix:
- The Four Pillars of Singing
- Train Onsets & Sirens: Resistance: #3 ... and then work on these parts very slowly inside a belty position... 
     - A&R Onsets + Slowly hold onto the musculature and train your articulators how to shape these lyrics on these notes.
 
Take note how narrowed Halford is on his articulation and vowels... A certain level of "ease" as he sings this... BIG CLUE... that is because he is amplifying the resonance, not hollering.
Singing like this is about focusing acoustic energy, like a laser beam... from narrowing.. which can't really happen correctly, if you don't have TA strength.
Train with me and Ill show you how... 
It is melting down because you don't have belt strength for it.
 

I agree with G. And the paid part of review my singing is known from the front, as well as the request and wish by the owner, creator of this forum to have some kind of avatar of color, with exactly every new member not doing it, making me think that needs to be more emboldened. 
We concentrate on singing, here, but in all the styles you could imagine. So, is the crack about that to imply that we are not a musical community or broad enough because we have reminded you of the cost? And before you reply again with "that's not what I said," be aware that we not only can re-read, we can also read between the lines.
Now, go ahead and call me salty.To quote Robert DeNiro, "are you talking to me?"

I was just replying to what you said below in bold.
 
 
If you meant something else, that just wasn't clear to me.
 
Can I ask what you mean by it being a more broad musical community?
 
If it's about commenting on your singing, we simply cannot do that. Review My Singing is a paid service. There are lots of people here who have studied the art of singing for years, including a number of performers and singing teachers, so you would be getting expert advice. I actually highly recommend that you purchase it, because, as I mentioned before, you are serious about singing.

You need to re-read and absorb Robert's reply. If you think it is horrible, why should we bother listening to it? Are you waiting for "OMG, you are the best singer ever and quit criticizing yourself"?
That's going to be a long wait, so you might order a pizza.
Instead, work on the song, make it the best that you can. One of my pet peeves is when people want to give all these conditions and disclaimers up front. Forget all that. I don't want to read about that. I want to hear you singing as best as you can. And that is what Robert is asking for. 
Might you still have some things that need work? Maybe, and those comments will happen.
I have been guilty of recording songs I liked that don't really sound right in my voice, especially in the original arrangement. So, I have been where you are. Instead, I really examine my recordings and I have a few I have worked on that I have not shared because I know it's not sounding right. I might play with them some more. Maybe not. So, my work ethic is also improving and it also explains why I have not posted anything in a while. I am becoming more choosy and there may be few here thinking "Hallelujah, about stinking time." 
So, re-think what you are doing.

- Good bridge.
But...
- Slow it down! This is too fast. You are cheating your body/voice from the opportunity of gaining more motor skills and strength. "sloppy" sirens equal, a weak voice and continuation of confusion and frustration about singing and your voice.
- At :50, you need to lift the soft palate and tune in more /a/ (cat) to find the resonance.
- The phonation needs to have narrowing to it. The embouchure and vowel are too splatty and wide on top... use the mid-narrowed TVS curbing vowel, "ou" (would) to narrow the vocal track and anchor the TA muscle more. No narrowing = In ability to articulate / sing in the head voice.
- At 1:01, your voice broke... why would you ignore that and then race forward to the next scale without working on that transition? You can't afford to have the voice break and then ignore it. That is your "cue" to pay attention and slow down and work on that movement!
- Good intuitive use of the onsets!  I hear T&R, A&R, W&R onsets in here and they are all used in a smart, intuitive way. GOOD JOB!!!!  That's the way to do the TVS Onsets... you notice how intuitive they become after a while.
 
Overall, I'll give you a B+... I can see you are practicing. Great work!
Coach
 

Definitely stepping in the right direction. Now you are not crashing end notes on the siren, which I think is a great improvement. And nice to hear your progress applied to "Black Hole Sun." That song sounds good in your voice and you should keep it as both a song to have in your "set list" and as a benchmark to measure your progress. In the end, even as good as your sirens get, the song is the thing.