Radio Head -High and Dry

[2 cats in a dust bin]

I have paid and I am singed up to the "review my singing" but I am unable to to start a new topic in that thread
So please could you move this thread over to the "review my singing" thread

Anyway hear are 2 .mp2 files I did using audacity
I think the recording sound on Audacity is better then windows live camera
What do you think

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B897xTc-9m8BZXdLbEs2SlRxOEE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B897xTc-9m8BVEUtLU84VFAtWE0

[Adolph Namlik]

1 hour ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said:

I have paid and I am singed up to the "review my singing" but I am unable to to start a new topic in that thread
So please could you move this thread over to the "review my singing" thread

 

"Cats",

Yes, you HAVE paid for the review. Your post has been moved to the RMS thread.

 

 

[Collin571]

it doesn't play for me.

[2 cats in a dust bin]

14 minutes ago, Collin571 said:

it doesn't play for me.

You have to download these ones

Did you try it? what happened when you pressed the link?

[Collin571]

1 minute ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said:

You have to download these ones

Did you try it? what happened when you pressed the link?

I'm not trying to download it, I trust you but it's a good policy we have about uploading rather than downloading.  Put it on soundcloud my freend.

[KillerKu]

Neither played for me on the browser. I downloaded it and it said 'mp2' which is not the most common format. The second file played in itunes but you're probably going to need something with better compatibility, mp3 is your best bet for that.

As for the cover. I like the emoting, but the pitch could be tweaked on some. The high in the chorus is flat in a very steady and consistent way. I noticed the pitch is a bit more accurate on the lower sections so I'm not sure if this range is a bit unfamiliar. It's not a tone deafness kind of thing, because the up ad down motion of the pitch is intact.

A few things that would help, would be to grab an instrument and try to find the notes of the song and match them over time and delve deeper in ear training so you can hear the distance between notes a bit more clearly. Drone notes are really useful (play a note, and intentionally bend your voice up and down over the note to hear the various intervals). You can also use a program like this to learn to hear relationships between notes better:

https://www.musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval

If you are having difficulty with range, lessons to find a vocal placement that makes it more comfortable and free would help as well.

I'm convinced you'll be able to get it but it's going to take a fair amount of training and diligence. On a final note, the throat clearing is a bit aggressive. It can be a bit irritating for the vocal folds to clear the throat aggressively. Sometimes humming through mucous can be a nice way to clear it with less irritation. 

 

 

[ronws]

mp2 not playable. See if you can save it as mp3 or 4.

[2 cats in a dust bin]

So I have done this song again and done what I have been advised to do

I have used Reaper not audacity because audacity makes a mess of it all

But with reaper I can only save it as a .wav file

So please so if you can open this 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B897xTc-9m8Bc0M5UDRFN0tOSVE

[ronws]

Won't play. By the way, go to the Audacity website and follow the link for the free LAME mp3 encoder. It will also work in Reaper because it also does not have an mp3 encoder because of proprietary reasons.

Anyway, so get the LAME and make sure your copy of Reaper sees it. Then mix and render in mp3. And then you can get an account at box dot com. Your file will be associated with a player page. Paste that link to a player page in a reply in this thread.

[KillerKu]

You can also try soundcloud or box as storage places. I haven't seen anyone share with google drive here. Not sure if that is an issue.

[2 cats in a dust bin]

This is becoming to be a bit of a joke now it really is

The link works fine for me as a download when logged out

[ronws]

Suit yourself. Good luck and good on you.

[Jarom]

1 hour ago, 2 cats in a dust bin said:

This is becoming to be a bit of a joke now it really is

The link works fine for me as a download when logged out

 

It doesn't matter if you can download it. The policy is that you need to post streamable content. 

[Jarom]

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[Jeremy Mohler]

Picosong works great as well for a free streaming service but you need an MP3 first to upload.  Don't think it takes MP2.   

[2 cats in a dust bin]

I realy do fail to see the logic to this I realy do.
Because as far as I can see streming is downloading just not saving the file that is all

We went through this a few years ago when some twerp moved into the flat above Rogers.
And Roger having a telephone and broadband decided to run a cable up to his flat and split the bill, line 50/ 50
Only problem is Roger could not get online because this guy was using all the data allowance.
Roger being a clever man who would read and use things like Wikipida and not waste his life on facebook youtube crap.
Where this guy spent all day streaming junk off youtube and pissed Roger off in the end because he refused to belive that he was downloading data and streaming was not downloading data it was something ells in his infinite wisdom.

So there you have it, if you want to watch/ stream that same video again then you have to download it twice
Faulse acconamy realy
You can download it but you have the option to open the file as well as save it too, so I dont see what anyones problem is realy

But never the less you have all made your minds up regardless of the above
So hear is the song I just did as an .mp3 and using drop box as well
https://app.box.com/s/ez0xb2k0zdxfxlso35luyy1ks0qw7pz2
Bit of a cold on my through at the moment but hay ho, should really crack on with it anyway 

[ronws]

First off, you can can the condescending attitude of meeting our demands. We really are trying to help. And if you read the information given to you at both your signing into the forum and repeated in this thread, it does not say, use any old thing that eventually gets you to a streaming link. It says to post a link that streams. And if that is going to be a problem for you, then it will be a problem for anyone trying to help you. And for some of us, your link was simply not working, period, paragraph, end of book, forever, amen. Browbeating us about it won't actually win you any points of credibility, either. Chill, go with the flow.

This a slightly better recording. You are still coming in too hot on the mic, but at least it is only on the louder notes and not all the way through. And yes, I give myself permission to comment on that because I have been king of the crappy recordings. Ask anyone who has been around here for a while.

And you are still off pitch. I would suggest that you really listen to your recording, the one you shared here. I can't point to a particular point in the song because it is the entire song. So, just pick a spot or phrase in the song and really listen. The reason is I am wondering if you are not capable of making a note that matches pitch and if it is a hearing problem.

[Gsoul82]

On July 13, 2016 at 9:09 PM, 2 cats in a dust bin said:

I realy do fail to see the logic to this I realy do.
Because as far as I can see streming is downloading just not saving the file that is all

We went through this a few years ago when some twerp moved into the flat above Rogers.
And Roger having a telephone and broadband decided to run a cable up to his flat and split the bill, line 50/ 50
Only problem is Roger could not get online because this guy was using all the data allowance.
Roger being a clever man who would read and use things like Wikipida and not waste his life on facebook youtube crap.
Where this guy spent all day streaming junk off youtube and pissed Roger off in the end because he refused to belive that he was downloading data and streaming was not downloading data it was something ells in his infinite wisdom.

So there you have it, if you want to watch/ stream that same video again then you have to download it twice
Faulse acconamy realy
You can download it but you have the option to open the file as well as save it too, so I dont see what anyones problem is realy

But never the less you have all made your minds up regardless of the above
So hear is the song I just did as an .mp3 and using drop box as well
https://app.box.com/s/ez0xb2k0zdxfxlso35luyy1ks0qw7pz2
Bit of a cold on my through at the moment but hay ho, should really crack on with it anyway 

 

Don't get worked up about it now. You paid and you're trying to get the help you paid for, so lets focus on that.

I listened to the recording in the quote above and the pitch is the biggest issue there, and it is an issue throughout. No worries though, because that can be fixed. Take Killer's advice up top and start looking into ear training exercises.

 

[2 cats in a dust bin]

OK 

I get the message I got it working in the end so best to put my opinions to one side and back to the recording

 

 

21 hours ago, ronws said:

This a slightly better recording. You are still coming in too hot on the mic, but at least it is only on the louder notes and not all the way through

And you are still off pitch

Do you mean to high on the notes high and dry, which I was told before where flat and needed lifting up?

11 hours ago, Gsoul82 said:

I listened to the recording in the quote above and the pitch is the biggest issue there, and it is an issue throughout. No worries though, because that can be fixed. Take Killer's advice up top and start looking into ear training exercises.

 

I dont know what you mean by ear training

And I dont know what you mean by pitch?

 

But are you saying this track is not two far off and dose not need ditching like the other one

[ronws]

I think you can work on it and get better. On your loud notes, regardless of pitch, you are either overloading the mic or the input the mic is plugged into. So, lower that input and also, when singing loud, especially loud and high, move back from the mic a bit.

Ear training is learning to match pitch or notes that you hear compared to what you are singing.

A guitar is playing a single string, fretted at the second fret and it is an A3. Matching pitch means you singing the note that is A3, just like the guitar.

[2 cats in a dust bin]

I was thinking of uploading another thread of another song but I don't know at the moment because I get all this advice but I don't understand what you are all talking about

 

I though when you said matching sounds using an insteament you where talking about matching vocal cord using a PC software 

But now do you mean listening to a piano key and trying to sing to it?

 

Anyway hear is what I  got from your idea of ear training

Record myself sing the original track with the original artist sing (no karaoke) then listen to it and do it all again

So hear it is 

https://app.box.com/s/s26rmww12wt7js0gs04r0ibvd9s7ij3a

And the one after

https://app.box.com/s/tw8um5u41m30a2jg53tqgzl6ci0bhjfv

[ronws]

Not exactly what I meant but it doesn't matter. The problem, evidently, is that you are not hearing the difference between what note you sing and the note being played or sung by others. That is, it would not matter if you tried to match notes with a piano, guitar, ukele, or any site that google could find for you that would play a virtual piano. You are not hearing how the notes in the music are one thing and you are singing something that is not matching.

One of the things I learned is once you find the right note, equate it in your mind to an object or color, doesn't matter what it is as long as your mind makes the connection.

Since you are not able to hear that difference, you really need a vocal coach who can cue you to go higher or lower until you are matching the notes and then you can memorize that feeling, whatever that feeling is. And needs to be someone with you in real time, either in person or via Skype. Robert Lunte here does skype lessons.

[Jarom]

You need to work on pitch. I had the same problem when I started. Doe ray me fa so la te doe. master that

[2 cats in a dust bin]

We keep using this magical word again pitch!

 

Singing lessons sound very expencive

Robert Lunte, dose a downloadable training course, would that do the job?

[2 cats in a dust bin]

11 hours ago, Jarom said:

 Doe ray me fa so la te doe. master that

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