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I finally had a few minutes,

late at night so I had go with something soft. Let me know what you think.

      Hi Kaidan29, You do have a nice tone, One thing that is a popular misconception is that soft singing takes a low volume and less effort. It actully takes as much or more effort because you are controlling the voice to sound soft. Singing generally takes an air flow and energy similar to scolding someone........... Picture this............You walk into a room and find your son, daughter or younger sibling coloring in your favorite book  or school report. Without thinking you say (with emotion)  "Stop! What do you think you are doing? I needed that."        That would be the same kind of energy needed in singing ..... Your voice needs air and energy to be efficent.

   It is also easier to control pitch with this type of energy.

    I do not think that any training you have done is a waste. Any training is going to build some form of coordination and build strengths. One of the big differences in Roberts program is that he walks you through coordinations in what he calls work flows. It makes a big difference when some one guides you to a proper coordination for an exercise .......... And in Roberts program it is really meant as an exercise NOT just a vocalise.. 

   Roberts passion for training singers and their progress is also an inspiration. It makes a difference when some one seems to be genuinely interested in your progress.

   CVT is good product also ........ I don't think that it explains the different coordinations for their Modes too well ............. But after you train with Roberts program if you revisit CVT it will make a lot more sense and be a better resource for you.

     I am assuming this is a responce to Ronws suggestion of letting the notes resonate. Sing a note lets say G3 at a moderate volume..... without worrying about what vowel you are singing change the timbre of the sound....... you can make that note brassy and bright, deep and bright, Thin, thick.......... play with it ............ what you are doing is changing the size and shape of the resonance chamber (vocal tract) notice what changes take place to the sound and feel. Don't just sing it the way you always do, what someone else told you to do to get resonance ........... Resonance occurs when the shape of the vocal tract reacts with the note being sung........ The adjustment is not the same for everyone and holding the top and back fully open may miss the sweet spot. Play with it so you can learn how to control your own voice.

   Thanks Ronws, I want people to know that my observation was not directed towards Felipes recording, Just a point to ponder for those also working on this song.

I have been thinking about recording this but it would be in a different direction from Felipe, John and Trent......I tend to express my pain a few notes higher than Johnny.

    Nice Job Felipe, ......... Just an observation ............. it helps to record this after a few days of beating yourself up over all the crap that goes on in this life.  There is a certain pain that causes one to think......." I hurt myself today, just to see if I can feel " .........Been there done that .....the expression of this feeling is very subtle. To get it in your voice almost takes reliving it as you sing. It is never a matter of "do I sing this dark or do I express it through a talk/sing? "

    I am also not proposing that every time you sing this you must be in that state of mind (that could put one into the loony bin,).......but certainly while working the song and getting the nuances down it helps.

Sounds Great Felipe......... I haven't visited the review section for awhile............. It is always good to hear new songs from you.

    It would be helpful for you to post a sample of you singing the song.......... There are elements that can only be determined by hearing how YOU approach the note.

Basic factors are Support, Resonance, Vowel, larynx position. Record the song the way you sing it with the band. The words being sung can influence how to sing them........Some consonants and vowels promote good airflow and stability and some hinder airflow and stability.

    Thanks....I did not mention the comparison for you to change anything.....I have been trying to tighten up my own sound a bit just wondering whether to continue or accept things as they are.......I grew up with Elton and bands like the Eagles, Beatles and such where others have their influence from Dio, Glenn Hughes and Dickinson.  The difference in style is apparent but not sure whether genetics makes the difference or technique as far as over all sound characteristics.

Sounds great Musikman.......Just an observation.....nothing wrong about it but I have noticed than on an extended EE(I) you tend to break it up with an H sound......

I only notice that because I have been called out on it myself..... You have a nice tight and focused voice.....Elton is more full and broad sounding.....This I mention because my own voice is more like Elton and I am wondering if it is from a Physical aspect or a Difference in Technique.......I just can't seem to tighten up my sound......I have noticed the same "Tightness" in some of the other members here.......Like KillerKu, Xamedhi and a few others......

Anyway great sound, and if it is from technique I have a lot of work to do.............

That is going to sound Awesome with a backing track.........Keep up the good work.

Don't you mean Gospel and Jazz?   These last few months have been a real pain and I haven't had time to participate.  I still love the idea of having a challenge and I want you to know that you have done a fine job moderating this. I hope things pick up in the coming months and we get more people submitting their projects.

    You sound awesome......I have felt no need to comment on your voice, I have been planning to comment on another aspect but was pleasantly surprised by this video.

I was going to suggest that the only thing that could be improved upon  was your general stage presence. In other videos you almost looked bored.

   In this video you are smiling and active and appear to really be enjoying yourself......... the effect is awesome......

Awesome!

Nice Bono.....Your tone and style is Smooth and Buttery ( can't think of a better word ) where Al is Sharp and Punchy........

Nice contrast between the two but both work very well for this song.

Very nice Hobbit Rock,   I like the haunting guitar sound and the slow and mellow way you sang this. I was thinking it was more like a summer romance that ended when Summer Vacations were over..... But it could be that she went away for good through Illness or accident.

     I would like to know what Community or Forum you were on that tried to convince you that you cannot sing......They are full of crap or just filled with jealous members.......

     Sure there are things that you can improve from a qualified teacher or coach, but that has to do with making what you have more stable and making your voice stronger, not with the singing itself....

      I cannot give tips on how to make this song sound better.....I am not qualified......It sounds better than what I could do with it......

   Sounds much better Junaid,   You are still lagging a little in places (only enough to notice if you are looking for it) and your tone is much more consistent.

   Sounds pretty freakin' good to me....Those people who told you to stop singing are full of crap........Room to progress?....Sure...There always is.

   I just found out that Barbra Streisand started taking lessons After she hit the big time.....Of course she was still in her teens at the time.... This just tells me that even if you have a killer voice, you can always benefit from lessons....

All Right Now-Free(Paul Rodgers),   Hot Blooded-Foreigner(Lou Gramm)   Rock

I have to think about RnB for a while

    I have gravitated to a finger picking style that I thought would make the guitar more interesting But I suppose a full Country rhythm is better when playing by yourself.

A lot of  finger style guitarists have a way of muffling the bass strings and using them to create the "Country" or "Jazz" effect.  My way is more of an arpeggio pattern that seems kind of sterile after a while.  It does the job but not very exciting.....

   Thanks Pekka, I hope it is not the nasality. I am trying to correct that.    I try to use the same inflections, phrasing and timing that I would If I were talking to someone.

Sometimes it works out good.

   I know how you feel I almost missed the Jazz challenge because Mack the Knife got stuck in my head. I had to kill that worm before I could concentrate on Autumn Leaves.

I haven't had a chance to work on this one. These challenges are a great Idea it is a shame that we are not getting more participants. I don't know if everyone is waiting for their Genre to show up or not but the idea is to do something that you are unfamiliar with, whether it sounds good or not.

   Even if it does not sound good it will help you to grow as a singer and performer. Professionals often have to do things that they do not like. It is part of the job.

First things first......What have you done with GSoul?   Second.....I like the 2nd attempt on the RnB Style.......You really need to get a backing track to keep you in key.....The sound is awesome though..........