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Hi Rowns, "Red Light Syndrome (RLS)": I like the term. I was actually going to ask if you came up with it or it already existed, but I "googled" and found out. Too bad, you could trademark it and make some extra bucks. Well, I don't think I have RLS, although I am very self critic (despite having posted my first attempt knowing that it was not ready yet). I think my main problem is tension and the bad habit of pushing the sound getting louder and louder to hear myself and also trying to reach the high notes. I noticed that when I am relaxed and the voice is warmed up I can do so much more. So, I need to do this more often to get the muscle memory of the sensation, and also get used to work with breath support. That would solve 80% of my problems. Then, the range would increase naturally from working out. Thanks again for the tips.

Thanks a lot. I just have to kick my behind to start practicing more and more often, and just keep on working the basic techniques, improve my support, keep an open throat, release the tension, mix voice, focus on pitch and timing, and, of course, not forget the feeling of the song. I'll get there, it is just a matter of time.

Hi Ronws, I can totally relate to that. In my case I think it has to do with the fact that I could not change to head voice and wanted to push the voice (chest) up to break this barrier, which I never did, of course. I think it might be way harder for a chest puller/pusher/belter, such as myself, to approach singing lighter so I can go through the passaggio than someone who sings in a lighter manner to learn how to increase the energy when singing, or to learn how to belt. I know I have a lot of work to do to decrease tension and constriction by relaxing and keeping a neutral larynx and an open throat. But I'll get there. Most of the people (including yourself) are a great inspiration to guys like me.

NICE! Classic Rock with a Metal Edge! :D

Hi Ronws, I definitely need to relax when singing. My voice teacher tells me every time to do it with less energy, less tension, lower volume, etc. Thanks a lot for the advice.

Thanks a lot for the kind words and encouragement RHan! I will keep on working on it until is better. I will also watch the youtube video you mentioned and try to learn something from it.:)

Thanks a lot Owen for such a detailed review! You are totally right about the timing. I don't know what it is with this song that I find it so difficult, but I had a hard time trying to keep up. I agree with you about the weighty configuration. I am a "chest-puller/pusher" who just recently discovered this coordination to sing in head voice. The problem is I'm still figuring out and working on how to do it consistently. I started taking singing lessons 2 months ago, but I have been bad on the practicing at home. The only times I get to train are when I'm taking care or trying to lullaby my 10-month-old baby, who just loves Def Leppard, Sweet Child o'mine (Guns), and now Iris. Yeah. I just noticed when I heard it again. I'll work on that too. I definitely sang with some tension, although I don't know if this was the reason I went flat. Also, on the choruses I turned my head sideways. I'll try again with lower gain on the mic, an also with a dynamic mic instead of the large diaphragm condenser. I will definitely start working harder (or just start working) on my singing, and post an improved version of this beautiful song. Thanks again!

Thanks MDEW! I didn't catch on the nasality during the chorus until you mentioned. I think it happened because I was trying so hard to reach the high notes with the wrong approach (tension). I will keep on working on this song, and hopefully I will soon post a better version.

Thanks Rowns! You are right about the tension. Every time I got the chorus approaching I would tense up a little. Because I tend to shout and pull chest, I also had to turn my head sideways to not overload the mic. I think I'm finally getting what head voice is, but I need a lot of work to do it consistently instead of just trying to shout it. You are right about my albatross, and You bet I gonna work hard to kill that ;)

Hey guys, I finally got the guts to record this song. I tried to do it in one take, but I had a really hard time with the timing of the verse after the 1st chorus, and also the final chorus, after the quiet part, so I did it in 3 pieces. I noticed that I need a lot of work on the chorus, still trying to avoid constriction, but it is sooo hard... Anyways, I know I can do much better, but I just got tired of waiting, and also I need some tips on how to do the chorus more properly, vocally and on the recording aspects too. I used a large diaphragm mic with phantom power, but with no compressor or effects going in the DAW, so I had to sing the chorus with my head sideways to not overload the mic.

Nice!!! That brings me back such fun memories! Good job man!:D

Good job RHan! Great cover. I have to agree with Jeff about the timing, especially on the 1st part of the song. I also have to agree with MDEW, you make the chorus sound sooooo effortless that it sounds as if you were almost whispering. Still on the chorus, I don't think it lacks "straining", but maybe a bit more of energy. "Sing it like you mean it" kind of energy. I also noticed that you "chopped" a few words. But I think it might be because English is a foreign language for you, right? You just need a little more practice with the words. It already sounds really good. Congrats! :)

Very nice Keith! I liked the final chorus the best because IMO it sounded much more energetic, almost like a live presentation. It seems that when MDEW and myself record and post our attempts at Iris, we will have a little contest of who sounds more strained. eh eh Just kidding! Hopefully till then we will be able to do a better job. What do you say MDEW? :D

I really like that song too! But I just learned it was not from Warrant!! :lol:

Very nice! I like the tone that you used. I have to agree with MDEW about the inspiration/frustration duality. You guys really make it sound effortless. Despite that, I have to take it as some kind of chalenge in order to improve myself. So, inspired by Felipe, Owen, Analog, and MDEW I choose this song too as my first chalenge to learn, record, and post here. Now the question is how long will it take me to do that. ;)

Yeah! Very nice indeed! If you were playing this at a pub or small concert, I would definitely "Stand up and Shout"!!:cool: Great job.

I am new to the forum, although I have been browsing many topics and listening to many more evaluation requests from other members. As this is my very first post, I carefully chose the cover of Whitesnake's Give me all your love tonight, done by GuitarGeorge, to whom I respectfully bow for the excellent job done with this cover. I am a big fan of Coverdale's talent, and now became a guitargeorge fan too.:D