Xamedhi

Thanx for listening, guys! 
Musikman: Yes, you are right, sometimes i pull too much chest up there in the G4-B4 area. 
Ron: Yes, that is a useful tip which i will try to remember.
Xamedhi: I have a taste for chesty rock singers like Bruce Dickinson and Tobias Sammet for exemple ybut find it very fatiguing to sing Iron Maiden songs. That is why i try to sing Judas Priest mostly , Rob Halford uses more of a lighter mix in the upper range and it is easier for me than singing Iron Maiden sings. Note "easier", it is not easy of course. This song, though, is really tough, it is right at the passagio.
Jeremy: Actually i have sung "Screaming for vengeance" a couple of times - a tough song as well.

Nice! much better. Singing with authority here my friend.

Thanks, Musikman!  
Indeed those notes are generally my lowest, it's hard to sing there. I recorded the song because that morning I woke up and felt so low and relaxed that I thought it would be fun to give it a try. hahah . In fact, although I made a few mistakes while recording, I had to live with them, because if I did too many takes, my voice would have warmed up and lost that lowest note, lol

I'm really glad you liked it, it's a tough song and a very dear one to me.
I hope you like the Helloween cover!  I don't have neither all the chest yet to sing it like Andi Deris, and I don't know how to use distorsion for now... but I did my best with my current tools  

Just had a chance to spend more time with the Helloween track. I love old Helloween with Michael Kiske but I haven't followed them since he left. Great song though, I enjoyed it quite a bit I will have to look more recent material up. Onto the vox, I think you are on the right track brother. Nothing to be embarrassed about here at all.  You have the chest and upper range coming along nicely. Just keep singing in that area and get the vocal fold compression and lower support to continue to develop and you are on your way. Not that you are not doing a good job already, things seem to be together in pretty good shape already. After hearing your lower voice on the Kamelot tune and hearing where you are at on the Helloween I only anticipate hearing great things from you in the future. Keep it rocking brother!

Xamedhi, I listened to both tracks and I really enjoyed the Kamelot. This is one of my favorite tracks from them and you do a nice version. I can tell a couple of the low notes in the verses are prob just a bit low for you (as they would be for me as well) try to make sure you keep the overall tone of the notes and support of those notes consistent which I know is hard on lower notes. I will listen to the Helloween and get back on here later with more analysis. Very nice voice, and I really enjoyed your vibrato on the Kamelot song.

Hey all!  

As a couple of months ago I told you, I am currently recovering from a nasty episode of GERD, and my voice has never felt as before. BUT, nothing will defeat my love for singing, so I've been training the hell out of my voice.

I remember some time ago Felipe posted a cover of this song and it was so cool that I thought I'd tackle it sometime as a challenge. I spent like 6 hours editing and mixing, haha, so I hope you like it guys.   And as a bonus, I'd also like to leave Abandoned by Kamelot . It is a very difficult song, but for totally different reasons than the other one.
 
EDIT: Someone knows how to make it an embed :c ?
 



In Forever and One, I mostly focus on vowel modifications. I try to keep the vowels as open as I can while curbing a lot, which leaves me vowels like AE, EH+EE and shades of UH all over the place. If you notice, almost all the more closed EH's around and above my passagio have a bit of EE, as it's pretty natural to me and it feels pretty comfortable  
 
In Abandoned, I focused mainly on the interpretation. Using a lot of dynamics, vibrato, and Roy Khan-ish stuff, haha.  I will never have his voice, but I love how he interprets this kind of stuff.

I hope you like it guys, and any opinion or suggestion you have I'd really appreciate it!
 

Well, what you want to do is to keep your speaking voice active WHILE using this voice. Call it falsetto or headvoice, or M2.  

What I did to find my mix ( a commonly used term for what you want to achieve ) was exercises like "buh, buh, buh" or "muh, muh, muh" on an octave, trying to keep a Patrick Star kind of voice. Or doing those scales feeling like you want to hold smoke in your lungs, or like you're stoned.  This will naturally keep your larynx down

The other is the extreme, is a whiny voice, like "nya, nya, nya" or "nye" ( with an EH, sound not an EE ).. this is the opposite, and will keep your larynx up, but will encourage the activation of your "chest" muscles.  
You can also try to mess around with your tongue out and your mouth open as wide as you can, downwards, not horizontally. 

This mix, will be always easier and safer to achieve if you keep your diaphragm low, feeling like you are still inhaling while making a sound, and try not to expel more air than you need.

I'm not an expert in singing, at all... but these are the things that have helped me. I hope it helps you, mate.

Ah, I forgot to mention... keep in mind that those excercises where the ones that helped me find the feelings I needed to mix and match muscles inside my throat.  Those helped me discover my "mixed" voice.  I don't train that way now, I train chest and head voice isolated, and then do sirens up and down full out throughout my range.  I just found that doing those for training don't work so well on me, progress was too slow compared to other stuff.

Well, the strength in your vocal muscles is already there. You certainly have a LOT more strength than when I started finding my mix, so I really think it is an issue of coordination and control rather than weakness.

Could you please post a clip of your speaking voice?  Or singing something in your lower register?  It would help a lot.
 
 
I recorded these yesterday to demostrate what I meant with the excercises I described.
Keep in mind that my voice is also a work in progress ( I've been studying singing for a year and a half now ) so muscularly I am not great..  but the execution, the quality of the excercise is what I meant to ilustrate.

https://app.box.com/s/d1srmr0a082a66rgxt6nkfnbpt4nd6xf

My chest voice was quite weak when I started, so I had to play around a lot with my voice to find the feeling of compression and "meat" haha    This sounds can help you find that  --->  https://app.box.com/s/cc05v9bofh5p1foto92pbxvgvoaxwntj 
Those ones I did with my mouth open very wide, vertically, and sticking my tongue out. The tongue out endorses closure.
 
I hope I am of help    If any other singer or coach can give you their advice it would be cool.  It's always great to have a lot of diferent opinions and means of achieving a goal.

 

Muscularly you can get a mix right now with the right coordination, what you need to find to "not sound so disgusting" is to train the control over your cords ( for sound) and over your resonators ( for tone ).  Doing excersices, whiny or dopey, will not change the sound of your voice, it is only an excercise. So if you can get results doing whiney stuff, just do it     The tone/timbre can be changed by adjusting your resonators ( your palate, mouth, the pharynx, etc)

Well, what you want to do is to keep your speaking voice active WHILE using this voice. Call it falsetto or headvoice, or M2.  

What I did to find my mix ( a commonly used term for what you want to achieve ) was exercises like "buh, buh, buh" or "muh, muh, muh" on an octave, trying to keep a Patrick Star kind of voice. Or doing those scales feeling like you want to hold smoke in your lungs, or like you're stoned.  This will naturally keep your larynx down

The other is the extreme, is a whiny voice, like "nya, nya, nya" or "nye" ( with an EH, sound not an EE ).. this is the opposite, and will keep your larynx up, but will encourage the activation of your "chest" muscles.  
You can also try to mess around with your tongue out and your mouth open as wide as you can, downwards, not horizontally. 

This mix, will be always easier and safer to achieve if you keep your diaphragm low, feeling like you are still inhaling while making a sound, and try not to expel more air than you need.

I'm not an expert in singing, at all... but these are the things that have helped me. I hope it helps you, mate.

Thanks Gnee!  Well, that is nice to hear haha. I have recent recordings in better shape, but I wanted to test out how do you hear the "worse".
 I'll keep working on my recovery

I liked your voice a lot!  Very good sense of pitch and I like your tone.

As the others said, your voice lacks the power of the original interpretation, and this by itself is not bad, it's just a choice, but personally I like this song that way.

Now in the technical side, you tend to hammer the ending of phrases too much. Most of the phrases that end in a vowel you hammer them down ( siren downwards in pitch, men tend to do it more often than women I think ) and you distort the vowel to an EH.  Like "Meeee-eh".  
It CAN be used as a stylistic resource, but you do it so much and so often that it can become annoying to the listener.