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it doesn't play for me.

of course after reading this I had to go watch some interviews of de niro and walken to get their voices fresh in my mind. Now I'm walking around saying 'You talking to me' to everybody lmao. I'm okay with sounding like these guys even though I think my sound is closer to a fallout boy mixed with Eden project kind of deal. I need to cover this song it gives me chills just singing it

It could've been that you're support variance had tuned itself for a better mix by that point in the song. one thing that really helps is glissandos approach onsets in the most relaxed way possible and try to hit the pitch but if you start flat just slide up to the note by adding air pressure. Sometimes I pretend I'm inhaling when I need to add extra support and it's almost like it clinches in just the right way and the flow becomes better. Similar to the lift up pull back technique except for I feel as if I'm pulling back in my throat and then the lift happens automatically. Also notes and vowels that you hold in ways you think you shouldn't (you know where you're holding something and you're not sure wether to sustain it cause it's taking so much push to sustain and also sounds kinds of shrill) because it's too difficult are not really that difficult once you pinpoint the right support and vowel/formant tuning. I realized this listening to Bob's advice on needing necessary tension in training and felipes advice about always needing to give a little bit more as you ascend in pitch, whether that be volume, airflow, or formant tuning.

do you also listen to music in a more syncopated manner or is it just when engaging in and performing that a closer attention and faster syncopation should be utilized?

'you could have a change of' I like the voice it starts in but heart breaks the character of the voice in that moment so maybe try to reel it back from heart to hurt or make the ah more like the ah when starting arr like a pirate on that pitch. Your ns and ds are very nasally, I think it has more to do with placement than anything. Maybe try approaching those consonants softer and see what changes in sound occur. At 2:05 your voice becomes more pronounced sounds like your clenching your abdominals and really delivering the air at a more intense pace. That voice needs to blend better with your voice when you're relaxed. That's sort of what I'm talking about with layered voice, blending the relaxed coordinations with the intense ones in terms of entire body involvement especially lower back muscles and abdominal ones. Pay some attention to your lower back muscles when you sing how they tense up and clinch when holding back an intense flow or taking a deep breath.

Yes just the intro. That would be cool if you sang that part and posted a clip here lol, I'm not going to demand you do that but I think it would be interesting. What I mean by your voice is inflated is it's using too much air which causes the occasional voice crack, which is fine when doing it for affect like the way Billy Joe sings bite my lips and close my eyes in Longview. I also sing it that way cause I'm a bit of a copycat singer but (*auto edit*) it I have fun that way. And by layered I mean it seems like there's some unnecessary undertones or overtones throughout the various pitches. The placemeunt seems to jump around a bit, so if you pay some attention to where the sound resonates when you enter a certain timbre or fach and then try to maintain that placement throughout the different vowels. You should try singing in a character voice and matching that voice throughout every pitch in the song as best you can. This is my own intuitive advice, it's not professional it's creative and somewhat abstract hopefully it can benefit you in whatever way you see suitable.

once you peel the layers away from the accent and your pronunciation improves I'm sure you'll sound beastly. You have a vibrant voice and a nice range to work with and improve upon.

Dude you got alot of potential you can compress your sound alot more it sounds like.

you're definitely onto something about it making the lyrics easier to remember. Another thing I would add is that sometimes imagery in your head also helps, replaying memories or imagining stories while singing is a great way to infuse emotion in the song.

for some reason when I heard your voice I instantly thought of the opening of this song sounds to me like your voice is very inflated, I think you could benefit from a tighter flow of air stemming from your abdominal muscles. I like your voice though I think it's more layered than it needs to be so more vowel mod, shaping and support variance will help you out in uncovering your best sound. I want to hear you sing more songs in a variety of genres soon!

I have an alesis vi61, I can play but I can't sight read super well. And thanks Bruddah!

I have been trying to feel the emotion in a song when singing it as well as blending that with creative vocal technique. Before I was trying to use very little effort and trying to sang in ways I had previously. I seriously love that suggestion though I hadn't thought about using that situation to express the quietness and low but at the same time high energy in the song.

haha I'm elated to hear you say that, or read you type that or whatever! I realized what you were saying was mostly about about being an artist and having fun with it.

it wasn't bad, I feel like you should do some more impersonations. Try imitating john mayer he's one of the first artists I started singing like because he sings relatively low and he's got a breathy tone so not much compression is necessary .

This is a good rendition. I liked the breathy tones, I like the way starting at 1:01 you sang 'this is the end' and 'do I owe them'. Also I like the way you sang the O vowel in stolen. In terms of what you could improve I wonder if you could hit the high notes with even deeper undertones or maybe riff it up some, you're really good at sustaining the big 'fall' and making it sound striking and powerful but it could also wobble some in terms of vibrato. But it's all up to you it has to do with your creative expression, personally my creative expression is better when I'm just singing for fun and not for recordings. I think it's easy to get caught up in trying to make it sound good rather than being artistic.

I couldn't even tell I was drifting sharp, I'm working now on paying closer attention to pitch and I think it'll pay off in due time. Also rhythm does tend to be a problem for me but I think it stems from nervousness and false anticipation.

I realize these are somewhat shitty but I want to make them alot better. So if there's any brutal advice to be given I can take it.

Okay gotcha I agree, I drift flat alot

By intonation you're referring to the resonance shifting in those trouble spots? It sounds like the character voice I'm using changes

Opinions? Thoughts? suggestions? I dropped something on the first line but didn't feel like rerecording cause I had already done a couple takes. I think I'm starting to get what Ronws means by stop speaking and start singing however ambiguous that may seem.

I want to do a good cover of this song, I have fun with it and it allows for plenty of creative expression but the high notes are hard to transition into. I can feel a higher register opening up but transitioning and varying support/commitment seems to be holding me back. first take posted (Chicago 2) has more belting and less transitioning, whereas the second take has more transitioning and less belting.

Could you give me a specific thing or concept to help develop the vowel articulation?

okay but why? Why should they be softer?

Also that syllable advice seems like something I should really hone in on.

Right, I really want to sound a certain way I think lately especially I've been compressing my sound a ton rather than using various resonances and different coordinations. I want it to sound good to me but I don't want to be falling flat. Also I notice this song that I could use a brighter configuration and perhaps a darker resonance or a more edgey/steely resonance to make it sound good and possibly fix pitch issues.